GODDAMNIT I just lost my REALLY long reply re: the "but that's regional" response.
Avendesora Send a noteboard - 15/01/2010 02:52:18 PM
Avendesora Send a noteboard - 15/01/2010 02:52:18 PM
Ok I'll try to recreate the post. *sigh*
When you go to a restaurant that has food from another country, they often have food from different regions. Either the different samplings are ethnic/culture-based or just regional seasoning preferences. Those differences don't make the food any less Italian, Chinese or Indian.
If I were to go abroad and set up a decent (not gourmet with three carrots and swirl of sauce but not chain style) restaurant...
It would include foods from different regions, and for each meal.
For breakfast I would have to have the following: Grits, pancakes with maple syrup and bacon (not that thin-sliced stuff others call bacon), sausage and biscuits with gravy, and home fries. We would also have a melon and berry fruit salad served with a side of yogurt for those on a health kick, but please. You wouldn't go to an american restaurant if you were on a diet, let's be realistic here.
Beverages would be choice of 2 from the following: tomato juice, orange juice, cranberry juice, and coffee. There might be an old dusty tea bag in the back somewhere. If you really want tea, I could go dust it off for you. In this country, only women and hippies drink tea. Or people from California.
Lunch choices: soup (beef barley, chicken noodle, or minestrone), a cold or hot sandwich with a side of kettle-cooked chips (not french fries!), cold mayo-based salads like egg salad or tuna salad (sandwich fillings only), potato salad, or macaroni salad. Perhaps a small garden salad with hard boiled egg.
Mix and match, or take one from above. Lunch could also be a small portion of a dinner (except for steak).
Dinner:
If you have a lettuce-based salad, it comes first. Not with or after your meal, but we will offer you the choice anyway.
If you want it as your meal we will offer you a larger portion of salad with some chicken (grilled or breaded and fried) with it. Maybe a hard-boiled egg and some cubed cheese.
Dinners would be samples from the following types of food.
Southern barbecue. Usually a piece of meat smothered with BBQ sauce and thrown on the grill, or simmered and pulled. With corn on the cob, salad and baked potato.
Hamburger served with fries. No other veggie present, unless you want to count the ketchup/catsup. Possible small salad with the burger.
Chicken or beef stew with biscuits. It is not merely a soup with more stuff in it. The broth is thickened to a gravy with some sort of flour so the stew bits are sitting in gravy. Biscuits can either be on the side or smothered in the stew. This did not originate in the states, but a lot of people eat it so it goes in the menu.
Philly cheese steak sandwich or spiedie served with sweet potato fries topped with a splash of honey butter.
Tex-mex stuff like chili and corn bread, possibly some nachos or red beans and rice as your appetizer instead of salad.
Steak cooked on the barbecue with baked potato and corn on the cobb. also served with the cold mayo based salads listed in the lunch section, and garden salad.
Gumbo, jambalaya, or some other spicey shrimp. I am not cajun so I have no idea what accompanies this stuff, but I would suspect other typical southern stuff like corn on the cob and/or biscuits or bread and butter since the origin is french. (help with this area please!)
Pizza, baked ziti, or lasagna. Served with salad and bread.
DESSERT menu:
Proper cheesecake drizzled with chocolate, caramel-brandy or strawberry sauce, brownie (squidgy NOT cakey) with vanilla ice cream, apple pie topped with vanilla ice cream, pumpkin pie with whipped cream, pineapple upside-down cake, and pecan pie. all of the above served with coffee.
I know I've forgotten so many things, but I think this sums it up nicely.
When you go to a restaurant that has food from another country, they often have food from different regions. Either the different samplings are ethnic/culture-based or just regional seasoning preferences. Those differences don't make the food any less Italian, Chinese or Indian.
If I were to go abroad and set up a decent (not gourmet with three carrots and swirl of sauce but not chain style) restaurant...
It would include foods from different regions, and for each meal.
For breakfast I would have to have the following: Grits, pancakes with maple syrup and bacon (not that thin-sliced stuff others call bacon), sausage and biscuits with gravy, and home fries. We would also have a melon and berry fruit salad served with a side of yogurt for those on a health kick, but please. You wouldn't go to an american restaurant if you were on a diet, let's be realistic here.

Beverages would be choice of 2 from the following: tomato juice, orange juice, cranberry juice, and coffee. There might be an old dusty tea bag in the back somewhere. If you really want tea, I could go dust it off for you. In this country, only women and hippies drink tea. Or people from California.
Lunch choices: soup (beef barley, chicken noodle, or minestrone), a cold or hot sandwich with a side of kettle-cooked chips (not french fries!), cold mayo-based salads like egg salad or tuna salad (sandwich fillings only), potato salad, or macaroni salad. Perhaps a small garden salad with hard boiled egg.
Mix and match, or take one from above. Lunch could also be a small portion of a dinner (except for steak).
Dinner:
If you have a lettuce-based salad, it comes first. Not with or after your meal, but we will offer you the choice anyway.
If you want it as your meal we will offer you a larger portion of salad with some chicken (grilled or breaded and fried) with it. Maybe a hard-boiled egg and some cubed cheese.Dinners would be samples from the following types of food.
Southern barbecue. Usually a piece of meat smothered with BBQ sauce and thrown on the grill, or simmered and pulled. With corn on the cob, salad and baked potato.
Hamburger served with fries. No other veggie present, unless you want to count the ketchup/catsup. Possible small salad with the burger.
Chicken or beef stew with biscuits. It is not merely a soup with more stuff in it. The broth is thickened to a gravy with some sort of flour so the stew bits are sitting in gravy. Biscuits can either be on the side or smothered in the stew. This did not originate in the states, but a lot of people eat it so it goes in the menu.
Philly cheese steak sandwich or spiedie served with sweet potato fries topped with a splash of honey butter.
Tex-mex stuff like chili and corn bread, possibly some nachos or red beans and rice as your appetizer instead of salad.
Steak cooked on the barbecue with baked potato and corn on the cobb. also served with the cold mayo based salads listed in the lunch section, and garden salad.
Gumbo, jambalaya, or some other spicey shrimp. I am not cajun so I have no idea what accompanies this stuff, but I would suspect other typical southern stuff like corn on the cob and/or biscuits or bread and butter since the origin is french. (help with this area please!)
Pizza, baked ziti, or lasagna. Served with salad and bread.
DESSERT menu:
Proper cheesecake drizzled with chocolate, caramel-brandy or strawberry sauce, brownie (squidgy NOT cakey) with vanilla ice cream, apple pie topped with vanilla ice cream, pumpkin pie with whipped cream, pineapple upside-down cake, and pecan pie. all of the above served with coffee.
I know I've forgotten so many things, but I think this sums it up nicely.

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I believe all news and research that supports my opinion, and dismiss the rest as conspiracy and lies.
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This message last edited by Avendesora on 15/01/2010 at 03:13:23 PM
What is the most American meal, iyo?
- 14/01/2010 01:28:37 PM
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well BESIDES burgers
- 14/01/2010 01:35:12 PM
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it doesn't bother me
- 14/01/2010 01:40:23 PM
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The only reason you can get a hamburger anywhere
- 14/01/2010 01:45:18 PM
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Your prerogative. Told you you could use burger, but that it was a waste.
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- 14/01/2010 01:47:31 PM
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- 14/01/2010 01:47:31 PM
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If one can get a burger anywhere, how does it make it less American?
- 14/01/2010 02:59:12 PM
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I'm fine with it being the quintessential american food
- 14/01/2010 03:01:48 PM
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Gravy and biscuits. I don't really know what that is, but it's very American.
- 14/01/2010 01:36:57 PM
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I'll have to make it for you!
- 14/01/2010 01:39:08 PM
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...that is gross.
- 14/01/2010 01:45:53 PM
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It was a play on words.
- 14/01/2010 02:00:54 PM
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Sadly
- 14/01/2010 02:28:59 PM
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- 14/01/2010 03:40:13 PM
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- 14/01/2010 03:40:13 PM
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Not sweet scones, clearly!
- 14/01/2010 03:43:58 PM
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Still
- 14/01/2010 04:04:34 PM
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- 14/01/2010 04:04:34 PM
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Re: Still
- 14/01/2010 04:07:50 PM
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- 14/01/2010 04:07:50 PM
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Ok, I know this is not that strange.
- 14/01/2010 05:59:37 PM
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I've wondered what the hell that is
- 15/01/2010 07:43:25 AM
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It's a savory bread, not a sweet one.
- 15/01/2010 07:44:56 AM
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So American biscuits = bread?
- 15/01/2010 07:49:27 AM
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See my reply
- 15/01/2010 09:27:50 AM
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Re: See my reply
- 15/01/2010 02:13:02 PM
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Re: See my reply
- 15/01/2010 02:55:55 PM
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you can see the difference in this wiki link.
- 15/01/2010 11:14:03 AM
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Ah...
- 15/01/2010 02:19:18 PM
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Re: Ah...
- 15/01/2010 02:58:42 PM
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I'll just have to take your word for it.
- 15/01/2010 03:11:05 PM
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If it helps, it's not a watery gravy. It's very thick and creamy.
- 15/01/2010 03:42:32 PM
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Peanuts and hot dogs at a baseball game is a pretty american meal
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- 14/01/2010 01:47:20 PM
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- 14/01/2010 01:47:20 PM
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ohhh! you inspired me! Noss! I have the truest American Food!!
- 14/01/2010 01:48:34 PM
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Exactly.
- 14/01/2010 01:50:19 PM
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Jelly=Jello elsewhere, I have learned.
- 14/01/2010 01:57:27 PM
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peanutbutter and jelly sandwitch
- 14/01/2010 02:12:16 PM
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Sand Witches are quite scary.
- 14/01/2010 02:15:11 PM
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They are
- 14/01/2010 02:16:50 PM
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Having witnessed your first mistake ever, at least I consider you human now
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- 14/01/2010 02:18:47 PM
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- 14/01/2010 02:18:47 PM
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Dread? It doesn't inspire nearly as much dread as pickled fish or marmite.
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- 14/01/2010 02:40:13 PM
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- 14/01/2010 02:40:13 PM
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It's quite good; ask Lene about it.
- 15/01/2010 10:13:56 PM
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They do not make grape jelly/jam/preserves/conserves here. I know.
- 16/01/2010 03:15:18 PM
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White Castle!
- 14/01/2010 02:33:23 PM
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Steamed burgers?
- 14/01/2010 02:37:12 PM
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I dunno, I've never been there
- 14/01/2010 02:39:33 PM
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- 14/01/2010 02:39:33 PM
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Holy hell. I just came so close to locking myself out of the flat. ¬panic¬
- 14/01/2010 02:44:51 PM
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Wowzers!
- 14/01/2010 03:03:48 PM
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I know.
- 14/01/2010 03:14:58 PM
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You need to be more careful!
- 14/01/2010 03:22:24 PM
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Clearly.
- 14/01/2010 03:33:03 PM
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Re: Clearly.
- 14/01/2010 03:37:39 PM
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I actually did that the other day
- 14/01/2010 03:38:35 PM
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You almost locked yourself out of my flat?
- 14/01/2010 03:40:10 PM
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Gumbo or jambalaya, maybe barbecue chicken? Definitely Chicken and biscuits.
- 14/01/2010 02:38:51 PM
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Did she just write you on Facebook to answer like this?
- 14/01/2010 02:47:12 PM
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Haha! I haven't logged onto facebook at all this morning. But I will, just to check.
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- 14/01/2010 02:48:17 PM
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- 14/01/2010 02:48:17 PM
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That's in about three states. *NM*
- 15/01/2010 05:18:04 AM
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But it IS burgers and fries.
- 14/01/2010 02:56:35 PM
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Why did I not think of grilled steak and a baked potato!
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- 14/01/2010 03:04:03 PM
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- 14/01/2010 03:04:03 PM
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Or a Philly cheese steak sandwich, or New York style pizza, or Buffalo wings
- 14/01/2010 05:05:03 PM
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Burger and fries
- 14/01/2010 02:56:55 PM
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- 14/01/2010 02:56:55 PM
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Maybe you're not impressed because you've been eating only the burgers and fries?
- 14/01/2010 03:04:39 PM
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Meatloaf and mashed potatoes.
- 14/01/2010 03:18:57 PM
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- 14/01/2010 03:23:41 PM
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- 14/01/2010 03:23:41 PM
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Yeah.
- 14/01/2010 03:25:43 PM
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I'll go on record as saying that I LOVE meatloaf with ketchup and mashed potatoes.
- 14/01/2010 03:29:00 PM
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Re: I'll go on record as saying that I LOVE meatloaf with ketchup and mashed potatoes.
- 14/01/2010 03:30:40 PM
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Re: I'll go on record as saying that I LOVE meatloaf with ketchup and mashed potatoes.
- 14/01/2010 03:35:11 PM
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Meatloaf is gross.
- 14/01/2010 03:33:30 PM
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Wha?
- 14/01/2010 03:38:11 PM
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Re: Wha?
- 14/01/2010 03:40:56 PM
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Whoever's been making meatloaf for you clearly doesn't know how to cook.
- 14/01/2010 03:47:37 PM
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- 14/01/2010 03:47:37 PM
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I've had it prepared by several different people. I am an anti-fan. *NM*
- 14/01/2010 03:50:12 PM
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Well, I've never seen Grits outside the USA. Apparently it's a southern thing.
- 14/01/2010 03:32:55 PM
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They are grody. Or have been when I've had them.
- 14/01/2010 03:40:49 PM
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Dude, I love grits. Put a little bit of butter in 'em and they're awesome!
- 14/01/2010 03:57:30 PM
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How does a Southern California boy like yourself manage to sample grits? *NM*
- 14/01/2010 04:08:51 PM
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You can buy them at the grocery store
- 14/01/2010 08:40:54 PM
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You've got to have personal inclination or have someone make them for you, though.
- 14/01/2010 11:24:13 PM
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Hah, you just said "grody". I haven't heard that since the 1980s. *NM*
- 14/01/2010 05:06:09 PM
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I'm gonna go with Meatloaf, with a side of Peanut and Jam sandwiches, washed down with a watery beer
- 14/01/2010 04:08:18 PM
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?
- 14/01/2010 04:24:44 PM
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What if they are one and the same?
- 14/01/2010 04:42:09 PM
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His scene in Rocky Horror Picture Show lead to a similar result. *NM*
- 14/01/2010 11:25:08 PM
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Meatloaf is rather universal, you know. The rest is typically american, though. *NM*
- 14/01/2010 05:54:34 PM
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Deep fried turkey with peanutbutter on top. *NM*
- 14/01/2010 05:43:27 PM
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You just made that up.
- 14/01/2010 05:58:06 PM
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There's a fair chance some part of america makes it
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- 14/01/2010 06:03:13 PM
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- 14/01/2010 06:03:13 PM
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There's a place in New York that does fried turkey with all sorts of weird stuff on it...
- 14/01/2010 07:37:51 PM
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corn dog. curly fries. strawberry shake. *NM*
- 14/01/2010 06:15:04 PM
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Corndogs just reminded me of chicken fried steak. Did we make that? *NM*
- 14/01/2010 06:23:34 PM
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I hope not. I'd not like to take credit for that travesty of flavor. *NM*
- 14/01/2010 11:26:07 PM
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According to wikipedia you are in the clear...
- 15/01/2010 09:29:55 AM
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Yeah, but you won't catch us apologizing for chicken fried steak.
- 15/01/2010 10:18:58 PM
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I am going to vote barbecue. Real barbecue.
- 14/01/2010 09:21:39 PM
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for your biscuits, you probably cut the fat in too much.
- 15/01/2010 12:19:00 AM
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Or let the butter melt....cold butter is quite important in my experience
- 15/01/2010 12:58:09 AM
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Yeah. Largish lumps of cold butter do best.
- 15/01/2010 11:17:08 AM
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I am going to find this difficult
- 15/01/2010 01:39:47 PM
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- 15/01/2010 01:39:47 PM
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After you get it right, you'll be amazed how easy they are after that...
- 15/01/2010 06:25:41 PM
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Deep-dish pizza
- 15/01/2010 02:02:56 AM
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But...but...
- 15/01/2010 07:41:30 AM
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GODDAMNIT I just lost my REALLY long reply re: the "but that's regional" response.
- 15/01/2010 02:52:18 PM
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- 15/01/2010 02:52:18 PM
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We're The Melting Pot, so use a kettle and your imagination. *NM*
- 18/01/2010 05:23:56 PM
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