I think the fillibuster is with in the spirit and the law on the constitution
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 18/01/2010 06:03:55 PM
The senate was designed to slow things down and provide stability. When the constitution was written the federal government was small and had limited power it only makes sense that as the power of the federal government grew the ability of the senate to slow it down has grown as well.
I think there really are two arguments here.
First, should the senate have rules that allow a large minority group to block major legislation? I think it should have some mechanism in place to do that.
The second argument is should it be so easy and there I agree with you. The minority party should not be allowed to play the role pure obstructionist and simply block every thing that comes down the pipe. I would have no problem if they made them actually get up there and talk not stop for days on end.
I think the real solution though is both sides to learn to be less partisan. Republicans are getting away with it this cycle but if all they call point out is things they have stopped they will have a toughs time come 2012 and if all the dems can do is complain that the republicans stopped them it could be tough on incumbents all around. If unemployment is still over 8% come 2012 finger pointing and excuses won’t get you much.
I think there really are two arguments here.
First, should the senate have rules that allow a large minority group to block major legislation? I think it should have some mechanism in place to do that.
The second argument is should it be so easy and there I agree with you. The minority party should not be allowed to play the role pure obstructionist and simply block every thing that comes down the pipe. I would have no problem if they made them actually get up there and talk not stop for days on end.
I think the real solution though is both sides to learn to be less partisan. Republicans are getting away with it this cycle but if all they call point out is things they have stopped they will have a toughs time come 2012 and if all the dems can do is complain that the republicans stopped them it could be tough on incumbents all around. If unemployment is still over 8% come 2012 finger pointing and excuses won’t get you much.
Could the Dems really lose in Mass - Kennedy's seat?
18/01/2010 03:19:29 PM
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to quote yogi berra: it ain't over till it's over
18/01/2010 04:10:26 PM
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Oh, if Brown wins, I'm sure he will be out next election.....
18/01/2010 04:28:05 PM
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Even if he loses and it is close I think it will scare a lot of democrats
18/01/2010 04:15:03 PM
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If we don't get a handle on healthcare it will destroy the economy.
18/01/2010 06:01:18 PM
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It makes people question their priorities
18/01/2010 08:17:16 PM
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Maybe they should.
18/01/2010 09:47:11 PM
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You act like America is a collective
18/01/2010 10:16:39 PM
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Is it? What are the Republicans offering for the non-insured?
18/01/2010 10:20:42 PM
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Tort reform
18/01/2010 10:33:01 PM
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Ah yes. Which they're quite right about, of course - but one item does not a policy make. *NM*
18/01/2010 10:35:55 PM
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purchase insurance across state lines
18/01/2010 10:44:54 PM
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the dems don't see insurance companies as the enemy either
18/01/2010 11:09:24 PM
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that simply proves they are inept
19/01/2010 01:45:33 PM
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Or in the lobbies' pockets, or both; now you understand why the left is as mad as the right.
19/01/2010 11:55:14 PM
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Of course they did nothing for the 6 years they controlled Congress.
19/01/2010 12:39:44 AM
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That isn't true, my mother-in-law can now afford to buy her medicine
19/01/2010 01:57:28 PM
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Curious about the last part.
20/01/2010 12:05:40 AM
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There are some basic flaws in your argument
20/01/2010 03:18:58 PM
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The state laws are the result of the gentlemens agreement and the feds not minding the store.
20/01/2010 06:18:50 PM
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America, like all groups of people, IS a collective, however diverse.
19/01/2010 02:02:24 AM
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but it doesn't think like a collective
20/01/2010 03:25:29 PM
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Yes, I realize human beings are selfish; that's something to overcome, not embrace.
20/01/2010 06:21:33 PM
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I know who I'm voting for!
18/01/2010 04:26:29 PM
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That whole "filibuster-proof" concept was a lot more valid...
18/01/2010 04:44:51 PM
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I have seen this argument elsewhere and I am not sure it makes sense
18/01/2010 05:28:57 PM
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It does not make sense if it's used in a partisan way, that's true.
18/01/2010 05:43:10 PM
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I think the fillibuster is with in the spirit and the law on the constitution
18/01/2010 06:03:55 PM
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I hope so. If people like me support Brown, then you know the Democrats are fucked.
18/01/2010 05:13:27 PM
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It's amazing, but even GWB and the R's didn't alienate the public so quickly.....
18/01/2010 10:02:27 PM
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I read Nate Silver at fivethirtyeight.com and he's refusing to call it...
18/01/2010 11:03:03 PM
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Wuss (that's directed facetiously at Silver, btw, not you seriously. )
19/01/2010 02:31:58 AM
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