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Like we discussed above, yeah. Legolas Send a noteboard - 26/01/2010 10:39:23 PM
I do think a person's job is a used does play a huge role on how others judge them. What is one of the first things people want to know about? What do you do for a living. The did a study where they had people rate male faces for attractiveness with no information given then had them rated with false job titles attached and their attractiveness shifted depending upon the desirability of the job.

That's certainly true, but it's still a big leap from thinking that a job is beneath you to thinking that the people who do that job are beneath you. Even with the attractiveness, you'd have to be quite shallow indeed to really consider people beneath you just because they're unattractive (whether because of their actual looks, the job they have and other "status" characteristics, or a combination of the two).
I believe class is another factor in why Americans have a harsher view of people saying a job is beneath them. Americans have dim view of class systems and people who think they are somehow inherently better then because of their station in life. How much the sort of family you come from determine if you go to a university? Americans typically do not take kindly to statements seen as derogatory to people who earn a living the hard way.

Yes, absolutely - and conversely, me and Jens not being American, it shouldn't be that surprising that we view things a bit differently. If you ask me, it's not so much that the class system doesn't exist in America, but merely that Americans hate to acknowledge that for ideological and historical reasons, and possibly also because it has connections with the touchy racial issues. People who think they are somehow inherently better because of their station in life, you'll find on both sides of the Atlantic, just like you'll find people on both sides who are smart enough to realize that being richer, smarter, better-educated, having a job with a higher status, doesn't make you "better".

And it doesn't seem to me that e.g. garbage collecting as a job has a higher status in the US; the big difference is the disparity in how people view collecting unemployment benefits. Americans work so much more per week, have so much fewer holidays, and all that, it's perhaps not unlogical that they attach more importance to jobs and - apparently - consider their work - the fact that they are working, more than which job they are doing - a more essential aspect of who they are.
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Work - 26/01/2010 12:41:16 PM 1501 Views
Seriously, fuck him. - 26/01/2010 12:47:05 PM 879 Views
You. Not so eloquent like the Irish princess. - 26/01/2010 02:13:28 PM 773 Views
I don't mind being out-classed by a Celtic Goddess. - 26/01/2010 02:46:14 PM 767 Views
- 27/01/2010 10:03:52 PM 792 Views
That's just silly. - 26/01/2010 01:05:07 PM 880 Views
Since Elaine has said it all so eloquently, I will just agree with her. - 26/01/2010 02:12:41 PM 729 Views
what she said - 26/01/2010 03:49:03 PM 811 Views
Sort of? - 26/01/2010 01:49:21 PM 809 Views
Usually, I think it's stupid to turn down a job, particularly in those circumstances. - 26/01/2010 02:21:59 PM 797 Views
I agree - 26/01/2010 02:47:22 PM 756 Views
...and instead you would ask your friend to loan you money? - 26/01/2010 02:53:38 PM 811 Views
No, friends and loaning money don't mix so well - 26/01/2010 03:03:12 PM 1002 Views
So - 26/01/2010 03:12:45 PM 815 Views
I seriously don't mean this to be near as nasty as it sounds... - 26/01/2010 03:21:40 PM 872 Views
I think that works in the short term but not in the long term - 26/01/2010 03:47:52 PM 836 Views
your only worth what someone is willing to pay you no matter how much time you spent in school - 26/01/2010 04:08:29 PM 775 Views
That's true - 26/01/2010 04:28:00 PM 834 Views
so the janitor is a janitor becuase he likes cleaning up after other people? - 26/01/2010 05:25:57 PM 719 Views
With an atitude like that - 26/01/2010 06:24:35 PM 761 Views
As you presumably guessed already... - 26/01/2010 06:39:54 PM 796 Views
and that is why Europe is in decline - 26/01/2010 07:10:25 PM 704 Views
Probably. - 26/01/2010 07:34:06 PM 859 Views
Re: As you presumably guessed already... - 26/01/2010 07:31:46 PM 791 Views
I think it's offensive to those EMPLOYED in those jobs. - 26/01/2010 07:53:54 PM 847 Views
Yeah that's totally what I said *NM* - 26/01/2010 08:05:30 PM 378 Views
To a degree, it is. - 26/01/2010 08:21:04 PM 830 Views
Only if one's identity is entirely determined by the job one does. - 26/01/2010 09:07:57 PM 746 Views
If you wouldn't do their job - 26/01/2010 09:19:36 PM 694 Views
You seem to ignore the main point of my post entirely and just repeat what Joe said, tbh. *NM* - 26/01/2010 10:06:11 PM 376 Views
I think it smacks of elitism and class - 26/01/2010 10:13:11 PM 708 Views
Like we discussed above, yeah. - 26/01/2010 10:39:23 PM 871 Views
Not really - 27/01/2010 12:17:00 PM 878 Views
Well, yes - 26/01/2010 08:25:16 PM 688 Views
Kinda funny, eh? - 26/01/2010 08:07:44 PM 855 Views
Re: Kinda funny, eh? - 27/01/2010 12:41:02 PM 777 Views
Re: Kinda funny, eh? - 27/01/2010 12:57:48 PM 937 Views
doesn't mean you have to insult the rest of us. - 27/01/2010 01:17:16 PM 756 Views
Except - 27/01/2010 01:20:54 PM 825 Views
it's just something I get very tired of. - 27/01/2010 01:30:20 PM 772 Views
Re: Kinda funny, eh? - 27/01/2010 01:20:24 PM 768 Views
Which leads back to me saying I do not support the poster's friend's attitude *NM* - 27/01/2010 01:21:49 PM 423 Views
ok - 27/01/2010 01:46:31 PM 744 Views
Re: Kinda funny, eh? - 27/01/2010 07:15:25 PM 840 Views
For a professional, yes.. - 26/01/2010 06:43:51 PM 788 Views
tell him you could give him the money but want to wait to see if a better friend shows up needing it *NM* - 26/01/2010 02:38:08 PM 442 Views
. . .what? - 26/01/2010 05:47:58 PM 714 Views
it was meant to be a bit of joke and make a point - 26/01/2010 06:00:07 PM 746 Views
I got it. *NM* - 27/01/2010 12:03:18 PM 329 Views
glad someone does - 27/01/2010 01:59:50 PM 685 Views
Reminds me of my brother... - 26/01/2010 02:41:36 PM 715 Views
Absolutely not. Whatever it takes to take care of my family. *NM* - 26/01/2010 03:14:09 PM 343 Views
The asking for money is where I'd have to draw the line, I guess. - 26/01/2010 03:23:44 PM 726 Views
it would depend on my circumstances. - 26/01/2010 03:46:33 PM 655 Views
I think I would only not work at McDonalds. I'd even do Burger King or something, just not McDonalds *NM* - 26/01/2010 04:27:07 PM 412 Views
what do you see as the difference? *NM* - 26/01/2010 04:42:10 PM 317 Views
I just don't ever want to be known as a McDonalds employee. - 26/01/2010 06:08:53 PM 769 Views
I used to work at Burger King - 27/01/2010 03:16:42 AM 673 Views
I worked at Burger King for 5 hours once. *NM* - 27/01/2010 11:08:36 PM 330 Views
On a grander scale - 26/01/2010 04:44:00 PM 930 Views
what bullshit... - 26/01/2010 06:12:34 PM 691 Views
And that - 26/01/2010 06:26:32 PM 760 Views
Can I have his unwanted jobs instead? *NM* - 26/01/2010 06:26:03 PM 316 Views
Life should really work out that way *NM* - 26/01/2010 06:27:33 PM 374 Views
There are a lot of jobs that I would refuse - 26/01/2010 06:33:07 PM 726 Views
Nope, as long as it's legal...you do what you have to. *NM* - 26/01/2010 07:34:50 PM 406 Views
There are certainly things I would not do for money. *NM* - 26/01/2010 10:24:57 PM 364 Views
Thanks folks! - 27/01/2010 02:05:15 PM 769 Views

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