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Makes sense beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 19/02/2010 06:12:49 PM
The goddess is Devi (i believe) and originally, only the slaughter of milk producing cows was prohibited. With the influences of buddhism and jainism, this became abstaining from beef all together, if not total vegetarianism.

But the original cow=holy thing comes from Hinduism. But also remember, that the Buddha was from India and Hinduism is really the foundation that Buddhism was built upon.



Yeah, I don't think any of my Thai friends were vegetarian- they just didn't eat beef. But that makes sense, thanks.
I amuse myself.
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French fast food chain goes halal Aisha - 19/02/2010 06:34:59 AM 1660 Views
that isn't unusual at all...I don't see the big deal LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 06:42:58 AM 632 Views
...how is it "discriminatory?" beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 06:49:24 AM 1102 Views
just as a note LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 01:06:30 PM 732 Views
(It wasn't a reference to Hinduism) beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 05:29:40 PM 710 Views
yah. that's hinduism LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 05:52:41 PM 809 Views
Makes sense beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 06:12:49 PM 744 Views
Not necessarily prejudiced or bigots Insolitus - 19/02/2010 12:03:17 PM 1048 Views
Not sure that works snoopcester - 19/02/2010 12:58:20 PM 792 Views
it's not discrimination in the slightest LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 01:13:03 PM 909 Views
That was my point snoopcester - 19/02/2010 01:22:55 PM 813 Views
sorry LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 01:29:11 PM 749 Views
No problem snoopcester - 19/02/2010 02:02:46 PM 760 Views
Re: Not sure that works Insolitus - 19/02/2010 01:44:27 PM 748 Views
Re: Not sure that works snoopcester - 19/02/2010 02:15:37 PM 903 Views
Re: Not sure that works Insolitus - 19/02/2010 02:33:30 PM 998 Views
dude. Every time anyone makes a choice, it's discrimination. LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 02:40:18 PM 815 Views
Re: dude. Every time anyone makes a choice, it's discrimination. Insolitus - 19/02/2010 03:22:14 PM 909 Views
yes, how dare a shop specialize LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 03:44:59 PM 725 Views
Indeed *NM* Insolitus - 19/02/2010 03:53:28 PM 395 Views
...I don't think that's a thing? beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 05:31:52 PM 767 Views
To the contrary Isaac - 19/02/2010 07:07:40 PM 800 Views
the restaurant does not have 100% halal food. LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 07:40:52 PM 755 Views
It was more of an answer to beetnemesis's hypothetical comment Isaac - 19/02/2010 08:18:58 PM 894 Views
I thought that they were still serving fish, at least? *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/02/2010 02:24:21 AM 451 Views
hahahaha Aisha - 20/02/2010 01:01:07 AM 854 Views
Re: hahahaha Isaac - 20/02/2010 04:10:31 AM 779 Views
Interesting beetnemesis - 20/02/2010 04:01:17 AM 782 Views
Keep in mind that France doesn't have remotely near as many fastfood restaurants as the US... Legolas - 19/02/2010 01:23:49 PM 980 Views
but what's wrong with eating halal meat? LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 01:33:17 PM 812 Views
Nothing per se, it's largely symbolic. I'm not sure how large the changes in the menu actually are. Legolas - 19/02/2010 01:42:54 PM 955 Views
Not a theologian, are we? Isaac - 19/02/2010 02:06:38 PM 901 Views
but is it the jews and observant christians complaining? LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 02:30:58 PM 749 Views
I've no clue Isaac - 19/02/2010 02:46:53 PM 927 Views
why would they be serving pork at a fast food anyways? LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 02:53:36 PM 732 Views
I checked the standard menu - other than one special burger with bacon, it's true there's no pork. *NM* Legolas - 19/02/2010 02:55:44 PM 385 Views
my point is how many fast food places have pork? LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 03:06:44 PM 787 Views
Well normally bacon is considered pork Isaac - 19/02/2010 03:07:45 PM 738 Views
Dude, it's France. They don't do English breakfasts. Legolas - 19/02/2010 03:19:48 PM 892 Views
American Breakfast, the english stole it from us Isaac - 19/02/2010 03:36:42 PM 829 Views
They put salt on their fries here, tons of it in fact... Legolas - 19/02/2010 03:48:06 PM 873 Views
Re: They put salt on their fries here, tons of it in fact... Isaac - 19/02/2010 04:16:22 PM 882 Views
Not a theologian, are we? snoopcester - 19/02/2010 02:31:17 PM 751 Views
from what we discussed in Meat Sciene LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 02:35:59 PM 817 Views
Oh? snoopcester - 19/02/2010 02:42:57 PM 823 Views
you could probably argue that it is less humane LadyLorraine - 19/02/2010 02:54:32 PM 722 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? lyringlas - 19/02/2010 04:03:41 PM 977 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? Isaac - 19/02/2010 04:51:14 PM 873 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? lyringlas - 19/02/2010 04:54:26 PM 942 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? Isaac - 19/02/2010 05:03:28 PM 720 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? lyringlas - 19/02/2010 06:10:50 PM 738 Views
Upper tip Isaac - 19/02/2010 06:14:06 PM 687 Views
Re: but what's wrong with eating halal meat? Sareitha Sedai - 19/02/2010 02:33:14 PM 851 Views
+1 The Shrike - 19/02/2010 07:07:36 PM 744 Views
It is a MacDonalds not public service provider random thoughts - 19/02/2010 08:11:36 PM 756 Views
Oh, and then there's something else, though I don't know if it's a factor here... Legolas - 19/02/2010 02:41:46 PM 775 Views
Re: Keep in mind that France doesn't have remotely near as many fastfood restaurants as the US... snoopcester - 19/02/2010 01:57:15 PM 881 Views
That's what I was thinking too. Lupine - 19/02/2010 06:04:02 PM 906 Views
You think the reasons are as objective as that ? AgentOrange - 19/02/2010 02:24:36 PM 705 Views
I wouldn't exactly call the reasons I named "objective", myself. Legolas - 19/02/2010 02:37:56 PM 819 Views
Haha, yeah AgentOrange - 19/02/2010 07:24:00 PM 732 Views
Simply put : Many are afraid France is being taken over by the Muslims. AgentOrange - 19/02/2010 02:14:19 PM 853 Views
Re: Simply put : Many are afraid France is being taken over by the Muslims. lyringlas - 19/02/2010 05:02:18 PM 767 Views
Are you refering to something specific ? AgentOrange - 19/02/2010 07:18:38 PM 794 Views
Re: Are you refering to something specific ? lyringlas - 19/02/2010 07:21:35 PM 680 Views
In a sense that's what blocked the inclusion of Turkey into the EU. AgentOrange - 19/02/2010 07:26:51 PM 699 Views
Re: In a sense that's what blocked the inclusion of Turkey into the EU. lyringlas - 19/02/2010 07:30:33 PM 719 Views
The question there is what's pretext and what's actual reason. Legolas - 19/02/2010 08:53:44 PM 755 Views
Re: The question there is what's pretext and what's actual reason. lyringlas - 19/02/2010 08:55:53 PM 812 Views
Why are such politicians automatically "crazy" ßelals Girl - 19/02/2010 10:16:53 PM 859 Views
yep. *NM* AgentOrange - 20/02/2010 12:09:56 PM 367 Views
Really can't see why people would get so worked up random thoughts - 19/02/2010 03:57:37 PM 686 Views
No big deal.. Kel - 19/02/2010 04:16:08 PM 770 Views
i can't see why it matters that they did. i think it's great. *NM* temeraire - 19/02/2010 05:23:44 PM 432 Views
So, what is the difference between Halal Beef and normal beef? *NM* MightyYT - 19/02/2010 07:06:21 PM 369 Views
the way it is killed. *NM* jh - 19/02/2010 07:26:02 PM 449 Views
Call me an obvious bigot and prejudiced then. I think the way they did this is bad. The Shrike - 19/02/2010 07:10:40 PM 792 Views
Having two sources of meat would raise prices even more beetnemesis - 19/02/2010 07:56:21 PM 739 Views
Not to mention the fact that anything served as halal would have to be cooked separately Floffe - 19/02/2010 10:55:06 PM 701 Views
I wonder how teh Saudis or Iranians would react... Dragonsoul - 19/02/2010 08:51:11 PM 753 Views
most halal foods would always qualify as kosher, i believe. LadyLorraine - 20/02/2010 02:26:49 AM 693 Views
Nope. But it does work the other way around. *NM* AgentOrange - 20/02/2010 04:50:26 AM 371 Views
fair enough, then *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/02/2010 05:56:00 AM 522 Views
yupp, kosher counts as halal, halal is not kosher though *NM* Aisha - 20/02/2010 12:55:30 PM 473 Views
So let me get this straight... Dragonsoul - 20/02/2010 08:42:04 AM 884 Views
wow. first of all FRANCE is changing nothing LadyLorraine - 20/02/2010 06:28:27 PM 846 Views
I think you missed his point beckstcw - 20/02/2010 10:12:18 PM 749 Views
There are many answers one could give, but the most basic one is quite simple... Legolas - 20/02/2010 10:20:14 PM 866 Views
And yet having come of their own free will... Dragonsoul - 20/02/2010 11:11:51 PM 745 Views
Way to read half a post. I am impressed. jh - 21/02/2010 12:10:39 AM 741 Views
It always starts small. Dragonsoul - 21/02/2010 12:32:11 AM 715 Views
Awesome, you figured out their master plan!! LadyLorraine - 21/02/2010 02:06:27 AM 815 Views
Like I said... Dragonsoul - 21/02/2010 08:43:32 AM 768 Views
and really... in this case it's a private enterprise we're talking about AgentOrange - 21/02/2010 12:55:27 AM 715 Views
exactly. *NM* LadyLorraine - 21/02/2010 02:06:57 AM 480 Views
Oh I know, don't get me wrong. I was trying to clarify *NM* beckstcw - 21/02/2010 04:13:19 AM 398 Views
I didn't miss it, I just thought it wasn't worth noting. LadyLorraine - 21/02/2010 02:11:14 AM 984 Views
Re: wow. first of all FRANCE is changing nothing Dragonsoul - 20/02/2010 10:13:12 PM 924 Views
Yes, i'm sure there is no other restaurant in that whole area. LadyLorraine - 21/02/2010 02:04:29 AM 869 Views
that's not the point. Dragonsoul - 21/02/2010 08:46:14 AM 789 Views
dude. your 'THEY" did not do anything. LadyLorraine - 21/02/2010 03:01:48 PM 840 Views
So if your French every restaurant should only be allowed to serve what you want served? random thoughts - 22/02/2010 07:18:00 PM 737 Views
I don't think French society should be forced to consume Islamic food. Dragonsoul - 23/02/2010 01:31:03 AM 725 Views
No one is forcing anyone to do anything. LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 02:47:56 AM 783 Views
Sure they are. Dragonsoul - 23/02/2010 03:05:12 AM 766 Views
well they apparently still have 354 of that particular restaurant LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 03:20:07 AM 722 Views
Don't you get it? LiterateDog - 23/02/2010 03:51:09 AM 699 Views
Actually they're not ragheads. Dragonsoul - 23/02/2010 03:43:14 PM 715 Views
If you have a sarcasm meter, you might want to switch it on. *NM* LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 05:37:41 PM 350 Views
Indeed, 354 throughout the whole of France, which actually isn't that many. Dragonsoul - 23/02/2010 03:42:30 PM 739 Views
how many French people starved to death before McDonalds opened? random thoughts - 23/02/2010 04:30:32 PM 771 Views
Millions Isaac - 23/02/2010 04:41:23 PM 741 Views
Huh. Sareitha Sedai - 23/02/2010 06:10:17 PM 715 Views
They are not forced to do anything snoopcester - 23/02/2010 04:41:35 PM 702 Views
So Muslims should be forced to eat French food because the French are lazy to open more restaurants? random thoughts - 23/02/2010 04:43:13 AM 661 Views
well don't you see? LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 12:41:40 PM 774 Views
Re: well don't you see? ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 05:02:16 PM 703 Views
I agree with you. *NM* Rebekah - 23/02/2010 05:10:53 PM 354 Views
This is meant to be an edit... Rebekah - 23/02/2010 05:14:23 PM 772 Views
I agree, Bekah, but it's not like there's not a middle ground LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 05:25:30 PM 706 Views
It's the sheer numbers that are worrisome ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 06:25:17 PM 862 Views
That assumes a great deal LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 06:52:41 PM 833 Views
Re: That assumes a great deal ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 08:00:28 PM 858 Views
Very true. Test case: Lebanon AgentOrange - 24/02/2010 12:26:43 AM 713 Views
Really? snoopcester - 24/02/2010 10:02:18 AM 706 Views
What he's referring to... Legolas - 24/02/2010 10:20:22 AM 874 Views
Oh that, that I knew with the political system snoopcester - 24/02/2010 10:57:08 AM 717 Views
Re: This is meant to be an edit... ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 05:43:03 PM 925 Views
Well, biologically speaking, it is healthier for the gene pool. LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 06:55:11 PM 723 Views
"Propaganda"? Kind of exaggerating there... Legolas - 23/02/2010 07:48:39 PM 841 Views
How is it not propaganda? ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 08:31:12 PM 894 Views
I can certainly see your vitrol. Now I'm a bit confused though. LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 08:54:54 PM 749 Views
Re: I can certainly see your vitrol. Now I'm a bit confused though. ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 09:08:33 PM 1179 Views
your view point is idealistic, I think LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 09:24:08 PM 1012 Views
I guess one would have to see the documentary to really judge. Legolas - 23/02/2010 08:58:47 PM 846 Views
The language really isn't the problem in France. Legolas - 23/02/2010 08:15:52 PM 856 Views
I will conceed that point ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 08:53:26 PM 848 Views
Oh yeah, definitely, re: your point about Americans *NM* Legolas - 23/02/2010 09:00:20 PM 362 Views
Our differing opinion does not make us wrong. or that you are. LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 09:07:38 PM 890 Views
I'm not dismissing the problem entirely. LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 09:03:50 PM 854 Views
Well. I wasn't necessarily specifying France. *NM* Rebekah - 23/02/2010 09:48:44 PM 367 Views
But a lot of them were already in a part of France or had been born in a part of France snoopcester - 23/02/2010 05:30:24 PM 733 Views
*gasp* There are no French Muslims!! LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 05:36:38 PM 859 Views
Or! snoopcester - 24/02/2010 10:04:44 AM 945 Views
It's funny because it's true - Algeria was administratively a part of France, iirc. *NM* Legolas - 23/02/2010 07:51:17 PM 309 Views
It does make the situation more complicated snoopcester - 24/02/2010 10:30:28 AM 780 Views
Why should you have to completely change who you are? LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 05:35:51 PM 716 Views
Yes, of course ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 05:48:10 PM 709 Views
Yes, but the difference was I knew it was hyperbole LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 07:01:49 PM 698 Views
Re: Yes, but the difference was I knew it was hyperbole ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 07:38:54 PM 846 Views
So they should be treated as less because they're immigrants? LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 07:45:16 PM 768 Views
They're not Turks, they're mostly from France's old colonies. Legolas - 23/02/2010 08:10:25 PM 723 Views
The French didn't seem to feel the need to go native when they were in Middle Eastern countries random thoughts - 23/02/2010 05:55:28 PM 964 Views
What are you refering to? ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 06:00:45 PM 735 Views
Brush up on your history then random thoughts - 23/02/2010 06:25:53 PM 760 Views
Thank you ßelals Girl - 23/02/2010 06:34:19 PM 704 Views
I would think that simply having McDonalds there is a greater threat to French cultrue random thoughts - 23/02/2010 06:52:34 PM 831 Views
This. well stated. *NM* LadyLorraine - 23/02/2010 07:03:47 PM 345 Views
Why thank you *NM* random thoughts - 23/02/2010 11:49:22 PM 339 Views
They had Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, and for a while Lebanon and Syria. Legolas - 23/02/2010 08:00:08 PM 916 Views
Many? Floffe - 23/02/2010 07:40:06 AM 771 Views
sorry I thought it was a restaurant random thoughts - 23/02/2010 04:41:39 AM 718 Views
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