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That assumes a great deal LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 23/02/2010 06:52:41 PM
The US has had waves upon waves of immigrants of various nationalities, and we still have a similar "identity" to that we had before. I know it's a bit different for one of the long-established countries in Europe, but you have to assume not only will the immigrant population outnumber the native population, but that it will actively seek to overtake the culture and that the dominant controlling forces of the culture (pop cultures stars, chefs, politicians, etc...) will also become dominated by the immigrant group.

I'm not saying that these things will or won't happen, but I would personally rather side on the err of letting people be themselves. In fact, I rather believe everything would go a lot more smoothly if everyone just took a big deep breath and moved on with life.
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French fast food chain goes halal - 19/02/2010 06:34:59 AM 1681 Views
that isn't unusual at all...I don't see the big deal - 19/02/2010 06:42:58 AM 649 Views
...how is it "discriminatory?" - 19/02/2010 06:49:24 AM 1146 Views
just as a note - 19/02/2010 01:06:30 PM 750 Views
(It wasn't a reference to Hinduism) - 19/02/2010 05:29:40 PM 727 Views
yah. that's hinduism - 19/02/2010 05:52:41 PM 831 Views
Makes sense - 19/02/2010 06:12:49 PM 760 Views
Not necessarily prejudiced or bigots - 19/02/2010 12:03:17 PM 1067 Views
Not sure that works - 19/02/2010 12:58:20 PM 815 Views
it's not discrimination in the slightest - 19/02/2010 01:13:03 PM 927 Views
That was my point - 19/02/2010 01:22:55 PM 829 Views
sorry - 19/02/2010 01:29:11 PM 768 Views
No problem - 19/02/2010 02:02:46 PM 779 Views
Re: Not sure that works - 19/02/2010 01:44:27 PM 767 Views
Re: Not sure that works - 19/02/2010 02:15:37 PM 926 Views
Re: Not sure that works - 19/02/2010 02:33:30 PM 1016 Views
dude. Every time anyone makes a choice, it's discrimination. - 19/02/2010 02:40:18 PM 831 Views
Re: dude. Every time anyone makes a choice, it's discrimination. - 19/02/2010 03:22:14 PM 926 Views
yes, how dare a shop specialize - 19/02/2010 03:44:59 PM 744 Views
Indeed *NM* - 19/02/2010 03:53:28 PM 404 Views
...I don't think that's a thing? - 19/02/2010 05:31:52 PM 789 Views
To the contrary - 19/02/2010 07:07:40 PM 817 Views
the restaurant does not have 100% halal food. - 19/02/2010 07:40:52 PM 779 Views
It was more of an answer to beetnemesis's hypothetical comment - 19/02/2010 08:18:58 PM 912 Views
I thought that they were still serving fish, at least? *NM* - 20/02/2010 02:24:21 AM 461 Views
hahahaha - 20/02/2010 01:01:07 AM 877 Views
Re: hahahaha - 20/02/2010 04:10:31 AM 798 Views
Interesting - 20/02/2010 04:01:17 AM 801 Views
Keep in mind that France doesn't have remotely near as many fastfood restaurants as the US... - 19/02/2010 01:23:49 PM 1002 Views
but what's wrong with eating halal meat? - 19/02/2010 01:33:17 PM 830 Views
Not a theologian, are we? - 19/02/2010 02:06:38 PM 920 Views
but is it the jews and observant christians complaining? - 19/02/2010 02:30:58 PM 768 Views
I've no clue - 19/02/2010 02:46:53 PM 950 Views
why would they be serving pork at a fast food anyways? - 19/02/2010 02:53:36 PM 751 Views
Well normally bacon is considered pork - 19/02/2010 03:07:45 PM 760 Views
Dude, it's France. They don't do English breakfasts. - 19/02/2010 03:19:48 PM 913 Views
American Breakfast, the english stole it from us - 19/02/2010 03:36:42 PM 859 Views
They put salt on their fries here, tons of it in fact... - 19/02/2010 03:48:06 PM 901 Views
Re: They put salt on their fries here, tons of it in fact... - 19/02/2010 04:16:22 PM 902 Views
Not a theologian, are we? - 19/02/2010 02:31:17 PM 770 Views
from what we discussed in Meat Sciene - 19/02/2010 02:35:59 PM 838 Views
Oh? - 19/02/2010 02:42:57 PM 843 Views
you could probably argue that it is less humane - 19/02/2010 02:54:32 PM 746 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? - 19/02/2010 04:03:41 PM 993 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? - 19/02/2010 04:51:14 PM 895 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? - 19/02/2010 04:54:26 PM 963 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? - 19/02/2010 05:03:28 PM 735 Views
Re: Not a theologian, are we? - 19/02/2010 06:10:50 PM 756 Views
Upper tip - 19/02/2010 06:14:06 PM 706 Views
Re: but what's wrong with eating halal meat? - 19/02/2010 02:33:14 PM 872 Views
+1 - 19/02/2010 07:07:36 PM 763 Views
It is a MacDonalds not public service provider - 19/02/2010 08:11:36 PM 779 Views
Re: Keep in mind that France doesn't have remotely near as many fastfood restaurants as the US... - 19/02/2010 01:57:15 PM 899 Views
That's what I was thinking too. - 19/02/2010 06:04:02 PM 928 Views
You think the reasons are as objective as that ? - 19/02/2010 02:24:36 PM 727 Views
I wouldn't exactly call the reasons I named "objective", myself. - 19/02/2010 02:37:56 PM 838 Views
Haha, yeah - 19/02/2010 07:24:00 PM 752 Views
Simply put : Many are afraid France is being taken over by the Muslims. - 19/02/2010 02:14:19 PM 871 Views
Re: Simply put : Many are afraid France is being taken over by the Muslims. - 19/02/2010 05:02:18 PM 789 Views
Are you refering to something specific ? - 19/02/2010 07:18:38 PM 811 Views
Re: Are you refering to something specific ? - 19/02/2010 07:21:35 PM 697 Views
In a sense that's what blocked the inclusion of Turkey into the EU. - 19/02/2010 07:26:51 PM 720 Views
Re: In a sense that's what blocked the inclusion of Turkey into the EU. - 19/02/2010 07:30:33 PM 740 Views
The question there is what's pretext and what's actual reason. - 19/02/2010 08:53:44 PM 778 Views
Re: The question there is what's pretext and what's actual reason. - 19/02/2010 08:55:53 PM 838 Views
Why are such politicians automatically "crazy" - 19/02/2010 10:16:53 PM 879 Views
yep. *NM* - 20/02/2010 12:09:56 PM 377 Views
Really can't see why people would get so worked up - 19/02/2010 03:57:37 PM 706 Views
No big deal.. - 19/02/2010 04:16:08 PM 785 Views
i can't see why it matters that they did. i think it's great. *NM* - 19/02/2010 05:23:44 PM 443 Views
So, what is the difference between Halal Beef and normal beef? *NM* - 19/02/2010 07:06:21 PM 377 Views
the way it is killed. *NM* - 19/02/2010 07:26:02 PM 457 Views
I wonder how teh Saudis or Iranians would react... - 19/02/2010 08:51:11 PM 769 Views
most halal foods would always qualify as kosher, i believe. - 20/02/2010 02:26:49 AM 712 Views
Nope. But it does work the other way around. *NM* - 20/02/2010 04:50:26 AM 381 Views
fair enough, then *NM* - 20/02/2010 05:56:00 AM 529 Views
yupp, kosher counts as halal, halal is not kosher though *NM* - 20/02/2010 12:55:30 PM 480 Views
So let me get this straight... - 20/02/2010 08:42:04 AM 903 Views
wow. first of all FRANCE is changing nothing - 20/02/2010 06:28:27 PM 883 Views
I think you missed his point - 20/02/2010 10:12:18 PM 773 Views
There are many answers one could give, but the most basic one is quite simple... - 20/02/2010 10:20:14 PM 883 Views
And yet having come of their own free will... - 20/02/2010 11:11:51 PM 762 Views
Way to read half a post. I am impressed. - 21/02/2010 12:10:39 AM 761 Views
It always starts small. - 21/02/2010 12:32:11 AM 735 Views
Awesome, you figured out their master plan!! - 21/02/2010 02:06:27 AM 827 Views
Like I said... - 21/02/2010 08:43:32 AM 789 Views
and really... in this case it's a private enterprise we're talking about - 21/02/2010 12:55:27 AM 731 Views
exactly. *NM* - 21/02/2010 02:06:57 AM 488 Views
Oh I know, don't get me wrong. I was trying to clarify *NM* - 21/02/2010 04:13:19 AM 407 Views
I didn't miss it, I just thought it wasn't worth noting. - 21/02/2010 02:11:14 AM 1006 Views
Re: wow. first of all FRANCE is changing nothing - 20/02/2010 10:13:12 PM 943 Views
Yes, i'm sure there is no other restaurant in that whole area. - 21/02/2010 02:04:29 AM 891 Views
that's not the point. - 21/02/2010 08:46:14 AM 806 Views
dude. your 'THEY" did not do anything. - 21/02/2010 03:01:48 PM 861 Views
So if your French every restaurant should only be allowed to serve what you want served? - 22/02/2010 07:18:00 PM 755 Views
I don't think French society should be forced to consume Islamic food. - 23/02/2010 01:31:03 AM 749 Views
No one is forcing anyone to do anything. - 23/02/2010 02:47:56 AM 804 Views
Sure they are. - 23/02/2010 03:05:12 AM 787 Views
well they apparently still have 354 of that particular restaurant - 23/02/2010 03:20:07 AM 739 Views
Don't you get it? - 23/02/2010 03:51:09 AM 719 Views
Actually they're not ragheads. - 23/02/2010 03:43:14 PM 738 Views
If you have a sarcasm meter, you might want to switch it on. *NM* - 23/02/2010 05:37:41 PM 357 Views
Indeed, 354 throughout the whole of France, which actually isn't that many. - 23/02/2010 03:42:30 PM 757 Views
how many French people starved to death before McDonalds opened? - 23/02/2010 04:30:32 PM 792 Views
Millions - 23/02/2010 04:41:23 PM 772 Views
Huh. - 23/02/2010 06:10:17 PM 733 Views
They are not forced to do anything - 23/02/2010 04:41:35 PM 719 Views
So Muslims should be forced to eat French food because the French are lazy to open more restaurants? - 23/02/2010 04:43:13 AM 680 Views
well don't you see? - 23/02/2010 12:41:40 PM 790 Views
Re: well don't you see? - 23/02/2010 05:02:16 PM 725 Views
I agree with you. *NM* - 23/02/2010 05:10:53 PM 365 Views
This is meant to be an edit... - 23/02/2010 05:14:23 PM 789 Views
I agree, Bekah, but it's not like there's not a middle ground - 23/02/2010 05:25:30 PM 733 Views
It's the sheer numbers that are worrisome - 23/02/2010 06:25:17 PM 881 Views
That assumes a great deal - 23/02/2010 06:52:41 PM 855 Views
Re: That assumes a great deal - 23/02/2010 08:00:28 PM 881 Views
Very true. Test case: Lebanon - 24/02/2010 12:26:43 AM 736 Views
Really? - 24/02/2010 10:02:18 AM 721 Views
What he's referring to... - 24/02/2010 10:20:22 AM 890 Views
Oh that, that I knew with the political system - 24/02/2010 10:57:08 AM 738 Views
Re: This is meant to be an edit... - 23/02/2010 05:43:03 PM 947 Views
Well, biologically speaking, it is healthier for the gene pool. - 23/02/2010 06:55:11 PM 737 Views
"Propaganda"? Kind of exaggerating there... - 23/02/2010 07:48:39 PM 863 Views
How is it not propaganda? - 23/02/2010 08:31:12 PM 917 Views
I can certainly see your vitrol. Now I'm a bit confused though. - 23/02/2010 08:54:54 PM 772 Views
Re: I can certainly see your vitrol. Now I'm a bit confused though. - 23/02/2010 09:08:33 PM 1198 Views
your view point is idealistic, I think - 23/02/2010 09:24:08 PM 1052 Views
I guess one would have to see the documentary to really judge. - 23/02/2010 08:58:47 PM 864 Views
The language really isn't the problem in France. - 23/02/2010 08:15:52 PM 875 Views
I will conceed that point - 23/02/2010 08:53:26 PM 865 Views
Oh yeah, definitely, re: your point about Americans *NM* - 23/02/2010 09:00:20 PM 370 Views
Our differing opinion does not make us wrong. or that you are. - 23/02/2010 09:07:38 PM 909 Views
I'm not dismissing the problem entirely. - 23/02/2010 09:03:50 PM 886 Views
Well. I wasn't necessarily specifying France. *NM* - 23/02/2010 09:48:44 PM 376 Views
But a lot of them were already in a part of France or had been born in a part of France - 23/02/2010 05:30:24 PM 749 Views
*gasp* There are no French Muslims!! - 23/02/2010 05:36:38 PM 880 Views
Or! - 24/02/2010 10:04:44 AM 963 Views
It's funny because it's true - Algeria was administratively a part of France, iirc. *NM* - 23/02/2010 07:51:17 PM 316 Views
It does make the situation more complicated - 24/02/2010 10:30:28 AM 798 Views
Why should you have to completely change who you are? - 23/02/2010 05:35:51 PM 733 Views
Yes, of course - 23/02/2010 05:48:10 PM 731 Views
Yes, but the difference was I knew it was hyperbole - 23/02/2010 07:01:49 PM 715 Views
Re: Yes, but the difference was I knew it was hyperbole - 23/02/2010 07:38:54 PM 871 Views
So they should be treated as less because they're immigrants? - 23/02/2010 07:45:16 PM 786 Views
They're not Turks, they're mostly from France's old colonies. - 23/02/2010 08:10:25 PM 740 Views
The French didn't seem to feel the need to go native when they were in Middle Eastern countries - 23/02/2010 05:55:28 PM 983 Views
What are you refering to? - 23/02/2010 06:00:45 PM 752 Views
Brush up on your history then - 23/02/2010 06:25:53 PM 779 Views
Thank you - 23/02/2010 06:34:19 PM 721 Views
I would think that simply having McDonalds there is a greater threat to French cultrue - 23/02/2010 06:52:34 PM 853 Views
This. well stated. *NM* - 23/02/2010 07:03:47 PM 354 Views
Why thank you *NM* - 23/02/2010 11:49:22 PM 347 Views
Many? - 23/02/2010 07:40:06 AM 792 Views
sorry I thought it was a restaurant - 23/02/2010 04:41:39 AM 732 Views

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