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I'm not current on it, but I believe the Navy has generally blazed the trail on this issue. Joel Send a noteboard - 24/02/2010 05:48:49 AM
They commissioned the first female pilots two years before the Air Farce, and had them flying carrier based fighters in the '90s. Not that that was without controversy; there was a significant scandal when a female fighter pilot was killed in a landing crash that one investigation ruled a mechanical failure and another ruled pilot error. When further revelations were made that she failed her first carrier flight test before becoming the first "combat qualified" female pilot just a few months prior to her death the immediate and natural accusation was that the Navy rushed her flight training due to political pressures.

The argument I've always heard against women on subs is that sub crews basically live on top of each other; it's not so much the concern mixed gender crews may get intimate with each other as concerns that since the whole crew is perforce fairly "intimate" they'd be very likely to end up having regular sex, which isn't really great for combat effectiveness and chain of command (which is also why fraternization is a no-no generally. ) The military doesn't have private showers, space is at a premium on every Navy ship, and nowhere is this more true than on a sub. Maybe if we had more female sailors than male we'd be talking about excluding MEN from subs, but coed subs still sound like a bad idea, not because women are unsuited or men have no restraint but because mixing genders for prolonged periods in very confining quarters is bad for group discipline, and poor discipline in a combat unit is a recipe for massacre.
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Navy will soon let women serve on subs - 24/02/2010 05:22:01 AM 390 Views
I'm not current on it, but I believe the Navy has generally blazed the trail on this issue. - 24/02/2010 05:48:49 AM 187 Views
It worked for Lauren Holly in "Down Periscope". - 24/02/2010 05:51:31 AM 237 Views
If the navy wants to it then it is their call - 24/02/2010 05:54:27 AM 182 Views
i think i made the joke on wotmania.... - 24/02/2010 06:19:40 AM 187 Views
I was waiting for a good "seamen" joke.. *NM* - 24/02/2010 09:00:24 PM 52 Views
that's ...what she said? *NM* - 24/02/2010 11:10:23 PM 59 Views
It isn't really an issue of women serving on subs, - 24/02/2010 07:47:57 AM 188 Views
if they can make it work, then this is good - 24/02/2010 01:13:47 PM 210 Views
If they want to try it and see if it works, sure - 24/02/2010 02:13:03 PM 186 Views
no, I know experience wise it's not practical - 24/02/2010 09:09:24 PM 171 Views
Re: no, I know experience wise it's not practical - 24/02/2010 09:53:47 PM 162 Views
Sweden does not have separate crews - 24/02/2010 10:18:43 PM 184 Views
Wait a minute... - 24/02/2010 10:35:41 PM 176 Views
They call it hot racking - 25/02/2010 05:00:21 AM 169 Views
Are they allowed to change the sheets at least? *NM* - 25/02/2010 08:20:46 AM 54 Views
Yes - 25/02/2010 03:32:04 PM 163 Views
I wish they'ld let girls in combat roles too. - 24/02/2010 02:35:47 PM 177 Views
I'm totally not suited for combat. - 24/02/2010 09:10:24 PM 165 Views
Re: if they can make it work, then this is good - 24/02/2010 05:15:58 PM 175 Views
wanting to shield women is still sexism - 24/02/2010 09:13:22 PM 170 Views
I did not know that either - 24/02/2010 09:17:20 PM 173 Views
probably - 24/02/2010 09:25:39 PM 168 Views
The rule isn't just to protect the women - 25/02/2010 05:06:12 AM 183 Views
Re: I did not know that either - 25/02/2010 12:11:27 AM 170 Views
coldly speaking, i'd probably shoot the enemy women first - 25/02/2010 05:08:58 AM 184 Views
It makes sense to me that women aren't allowed in combat - 25/02/2010 10:07:04 AM 183 Views

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