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I don't think that's what most of them mean. LiterateDog Send a noteboard - 05/03/2010 06:54:44 PM
I want to see people on the pill, people using condoms, people planning on children rather than having them accidentally. People who can afford them and are emotionally ready for them.

I would also like to see a world where rape doesn't exist. And where the offspring of rape are not a factor.

But these are just hopes. I think anyone who states they want to see abortion be rare also hopes for a better world. Yes, that world isn't going to come anytime soon. But its a good hope to have.


I hope it is. Making the procedure generally unnecessary would be a good thing. But from what I read, it's mostly about their squicky feelings about the subject.
"I'll blow whomever I want, whenever I want, as long as I can still breathe and kneel."
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I expect the Pro-Choice crowd will have mixed feelings about this AgentOrange - 05/03/2010 11:14:42 AM 892 Views
So...the next Sino-Indian war is only about 10 years away... *NM* Tom - 05/03/2010 12:49:24 PM 178 Views
A modern day Rape of the Sabine Women! The Shrike - 05/03/2010 02:14:40 PM 432 Views
Where will they go, though? Tom - 05/03/2010 02:43:28 PM 382 Views
They might end up as permanent foreign workers AgentOrange - 05/03/2010 04:25:00 PM 391 Views
I can't find myself disagreeing with this article LadyLorraine - 05/03/2010 01:38:43 PM 425 Views
Why isn't it? *gears up the flamethrower* beckstcw - 05/03/2010 02:31:20 PM 422 Views
both. *NM* LadyLorraine - 05/03/2010 04:25:28 PM 177 Views
The problem is once you give people a tool they'll use it the way they want to. AgentOrange - 05/03/2010 04:21:25 PM 420 Views
If it's a "child" then it shouldn't be aborted, period. *NM* LiterateDog - 05/03/2010 05:54:53 PM 161 Views
If abortion were illegal, I would want a son for sure. Aeryn - 05/03/2010 01:56:56 PM 427 Views
I figure that there are two things that will come of this stupidity SilverWarder - 05/03/2010 02:13:25 PM 412 Views
So, they need to follow South Korea's model. I wonder how this will affect same sex coupling. The Shrike - 05/03/2010 02:18:31 PM 421 Views
The law of unintended consequences random thoughts - 05/03/2010 04:22:15 PM 381 Views
I'll never understand why they want it “safe, legal and rare”. LiterateDog - 05/03/2010 05:53:50 PM 444 Views
some people that aren't quite either are lumped in with pro-choice LadyLorraine - 05/03/2010 06:20:27 PM 390 Views
How can one logically be neither? LiterateDog - 05/03/2010 06:36:02 PM 380 Views
Then what is the logical moment where it goes from nothing to full person? random thoughts - 05/03/2010 06:45:46 PM 385 Views
The beginning of higher brain function, which is after the midpoint of a pregnancy. LiterateDog - 05/03/2010 06:53:13 PM 386 Views
That is a pretty poorly defined term to use as a razor for what makes a human random thoughts - 05/03/2010 08:04:00 PM 404 Views
well at a certain point it IS a lump of cells LadyLorraine - 06/03/2010 12:39:49 AM 355 Views
I want it rare because I want more thinking beforehand The Shrike - 05/03/2010 06:46:26 PM 394 Views
I don't think that's what most of them mean. LiterateDog - 05/03/2010 06:54:44 PM 391 Views
heh. what exactly are squiky feelings? LadyLorraine - 05/03/2010 07:24:52 PM 447 Views
"I don't like that. I can't tell you why, it isn't logical, but I just don't like it." LiterateDog - 05/03/2010 07:27:58 PM 393 Views
squeamish + icky = squicky *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 05/03/2010 07:29:37 PM 192 Views
How can one post in the wrong place? *NM* LiterateDog - 05/03/2010 06:27:35 PM 211 Views
Why? It's the woman's body, she has the right to decide how to apportion her biological resources. Cannoli - 05/03/2010 06:56:44 PM 525 Views
Why? Aeryn - 06/03/2010 03:33:20 AM 451 Views
Unfortunately... jh - 06/03/2010 09:33:12 AM 436 Views
It is true that some socialist countries force the issue random thoughts - 06/03/2010 12:22:21 PM 423 Views
that still doesn't (logically) explain some things LadyLorraine - 06/03/2010 03:58:19 PM 441 Views
And for every sob story like this, there's one about a female boss with a chip on her shoulder Cannoli - 06/03/2010 10:08:06 PM 500 Views
so because sexism goes both ways LadyLorraine - 06/03/2010 10:40:54 PM 352 Views
I worked for a company that fast tracked female engineers into managment posistions random thoughts - 07/03/2010 02:45:22 AM 368 Views
I know, I'm not saying there's not discrimination the other way too. LadyLorraine - 07/03/2010 05:35:04 AM 370 Views
Well, I am very impressed AgentOrange - 07/03/2010 09:47:49 AM 444 Views
icwhatyoudidthar LadyLorraine - 07/03/2010 06:25:07 PM 368 Views
I just wanted to see how he got from "less average pay" = "less desirable" Aeryn - 09/03/2010 12:09:29 AM 385 Views
You got it backwards IMHO AgentOrange - 09/03/2010 03:07:37 AM 360 Views
Also, men retire later AgentOrange - 06/03/2010 05:28:13 PM 409 Views
I don't think that is a general rule Floffe - 06/03/2010 05:54:28 PM 433 Views
I'd be hard pressed to find any statistics like that AgentOrange - 06/03/2010 08:23:15 PM 369 Views
Statistics suck. LadyLorraine - 06/03/2010 08:41:16 PM 365 Views
They don't make corrections - they search for men and women in the same position with the same stats Legolas - 06/03/2010 09:12:46 PM 409 Views
There's a lot that women themselves can do to help the cause. Aeryn - 09/03/2010 12:35:34 AM 447 Views
You make sense AgentOrange - 09/03/2010 02:53:32 AM 353 Views
I think you overestimate how conscious most women's preference for higher-earning men is. Legolas - 09/03/2010 12:41:55 PM 388 Views
Yes, this is tragic BlackAdder - 06/03/2010 12:57:43 AM 396 Views
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