that still doesn't (logically) explain some things
LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 06/03/2010 03:58:19 PM
when I worked at the dairy, there was this girl, Pam. Pam worked just as hard as the guys and did a lot of the same things (at least, the things they let her do). The "guy tasks" she didn't do were not because she couldn't, but because our boss would not let her learn. When I left the dairy, she was JUST being allowed to do "scary" things like *gasp* feeding the cows. and she'd worked there for two years!! There's no heavy labor in feeding. You move the feed into the feed cart with a skid-steer (bobcat). You push some buttons on the feed cart. you drive the feed cart down the aisles. YOU PUT THE AISLE CHAINS BACK UP SO US PEOPLE MOVING COWS DON'T HAVE LOOSE COWS EVERYWHERE (*twitch twitch
the guys were horrible about this. One idiot did so on the last set of chains that I can't see from the parlor and I lost a dozen cows to the field...and when I hollered at him over the sound of the feed cart to come and help, he swore that he'd see to it that I never worked there again...despite they fact they've been explicitly told to put the chains up and that it is not the milking assistant's responsibility to do so (he was butt-hurt that I was mad at him and his self-righteous ass). and the bad part? Our boss showed such favoritism to the guys (particularly the feeding guys) that it was possible that I might be fired over someone else's stupid mistake, particularly if he didn't give me a chance to tell my side first. Luckily, our boss was out of town that weekend and our manager is much more sensible than he is.
sure, you could make the argument of "well the guys worked harder and did tougher tasks". The problem with that argument, the only reason the guys did the welding and tractor work was because our boss was sexist pig who wouldn't let girls who grew up on farms welding and hauling tractors do so.
so yah, the guys got paid more...but did it have any logical explanation besides the boss's sexism? No...no not really.
the guys were horrible about this. One idiot did so on the last set of chains that I can't see from the parlor and I lost a dozen cows to the field...and when I hollered at him over the sound of the feed cart to come and help, he swore that he'd see to it that I never worked there again...despite they fact they've been explicitly told to put the chains up and that it is not the milking assistant's responsibility to do so (he was butt-hurt that I was mad at him and his self-righteous ass). and the bad part? Our boss showed such favoritism to the guys (particularly the feeding guys) that it was possible that I might be fired over someone else's stupid mistake, particularly if he didn't give me a chance to tell my side first. Luckily, our boss was out of town that weekend and our manager is much more sensible than he is.sure, you could make the argument of "well the guys worked harder and did tougher tasks". The problem with that argument, the only reason the guys did the welding and tractor work was because our boss was sexist pig who wouldn't let girls who grew up on farms welding and hauling tractors do so.
so yah, the guys got paid more...but did it have any logical explanation besides the boss's sexism? No...no not really.
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This message last edited by LadyLorraine on 06/03/2010 at 03:59:33 PM
I expect the Pro-Choice crowd will have mixed feelings about this
- 05/03/2010 11:14:42 AM
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So...the next Sino-Indian war is only about 10 years away... *NM*
- 05/03/2010 12:49:24 PM
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A modern day Rape of the Sabine Women!
- 05/03/2010 02:14:40 PM
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I can't find myself disagreeing with this article
- 05/03/2010 01:38:43 PM
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The problem is once you give people a tool they'll use it the way they want to.
- 05/03/2010 04:21:25 PM
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I figure that there are two things that will come of this stupidity
- 05/03/2010 02:13:25 PM
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So, they need to follow South Korea's model. I wonder how this will affect same sex coupling.
- 05/03/2010 02:18:31 PM
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I'll never understand why they want it “safe, legal and rare”.
- 05/03/2010 05:53:50 PM
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some people that aren't quite either are lumped in with pro-choice
- 05/03/2010 06:20:27 PM
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How can one logically be neither?
- 05/03/2010 06:36:02 PM
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Then what is the logical moment where it goes from nothing to full person?
- 05/03/2010 06:45:46 PM
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The beginning of higher brain function, which is after the midpoint of a pregnancy.
- 05/03/2010 06:53:13 PM
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That is a pretty poorly defined term to use as a razor for what makes a human
- 05/03/2010 08:04:00 PM
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I want it rare because I want more thinking beforehand
- 05/03/2010 06:46:26 PM
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I don't think that's what most of them mean.
- 05/03/2010 06:54:44 PM
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heh. what exactly are squiky feelings?
- 05/03/2010 07:24:52 PM
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- 05/03/2010 07:24:52 PM
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"I don't like that. I can't tell you why, it isn't logical, but I just don't like it."
- 05/03/2010 07:27:58 PM
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Why? It's the woman's body, she has the right to decide how to apportion her biological resources.
- 05/03/2010 06:56:44 PM
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Why?
- 06/03/2010 03:33:20 AM
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It is true that some socialist countries force the issue
- 06/03/2010 12:22:21 PM
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that still doesn't (logically) explain some things
- 06/03/2010 03:58:19 PM
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And for every sob story like this, there's one about a female boss with a chip on her shoulder
- 06/03/2010 10:08:06 PM
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- 06/03/2010 10:08:06 PM
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I worked for a company that fast tracked female engineers into managment posistions
- 07/03/2010 02:45:22 AM
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I know, I'm not saying there's not discrimination the other way too.
- 07/03/2010 05:35:04 AM
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I just wanted to see how he got from "less average pay" = "less desirable"
- 09/03/2010 12:09:29 AM
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Also, men retire later
- 06/03/2010 05:28:13 PM
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I don't think that is a general rule
- 06/03/2010 05:54:28 PM
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I'd be hard pressed to find any statistics like that
- 06/03/2010 08:23:15 PM
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They don't make corrections - they search for men and women in the same position with the same stats
- 06/03/2010 09:12:46 PM
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There's a lot that women themselves can do to help the cause.
- 09/03/2010 12:35:34 AM
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I think you overestimate how conscious most women's preference for higher-earning men is.
- 09/03/2010 12:41:55 PM
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