I friggin hate turkish people that claim they are European, uhh sorry babe but no matter how much you bleach your and eyebrows it wont change what you are. I think it all boils down to an inferiority complex. but I say they should get an E for effort, they have changed so much about their culture to try to be more European like changing their alpahbet.Losers.
I don't think every Muslim expansion into Europe was for the sake of destroying Christianity, mind, but certainly they set the stage for religious as well as ethnic conflicts that fester even now. I think of Turkey as a thoroughly Asian country, but not all Europeans see it that way, and being at the crossroads does give some legitimacy to the idea it's equal parts European and Asian while being wholly neither. But the fact remains that until/unless Turkeys government conducts itself as a 21st Century democratic state, or its people compel the government to do so, it really has no place among such states. Making Turkey an EU member while it continues to ignore rather than reform its past does nothing to alleviate the Balkan problem that arrived from there centuries ago, and a great deal to exacerbate it.
They have like 100 km of Europe, with none of the culture, language, or religion. Not to mention it spent most of the last 500 years as the seat of the Ottoman Empire, from which hundreds of invasions into Europe were launched, with the objective of conquering Europe and destroying Christianity. If Turkey is let in, we might as well let in Cambodia as well, it makes about as much sense.
I don't think every Muslim expansion into Europe was for the sake of destroying Christianity, mind, but certainly they set the stage for religious as well as ethnic conflicts that fester even now. I think of Turkey as a thoroughly Asian country, but not all Europeans see it that way, and being at the crossroads does give some legitimacy to the idea it's equal parts European and Asian while being wholly neither. But the fact remains that until/unless Turkeys government conducts itself as a 21st Century democratic state, or its people compel the government to do so, it really has no place among such states. Making Turkey an EU member while it continues to ignore rather than reform its past does nothing to alleviate the Balkan problem that arrived from there centuries ago, and a great deal to exacerbate it.
And Mahtaliel will probably remove your fingers with her Viking axe.
But, yeah, I wish it were as simple as superficial changes. Whether or not the Cold War is over and America the last superpower, there are fundamental cultural and societal differences between the Industrial World and the rest of it. Things like truly free elections and the rival political factions consisting of more than the repressive fundamentalist sector and the repressive military one. I don't really have a problem with "emerging democracies" joining the predominantly Western political and economic worlds. Really. I just don't think we should be so eager for it that we usher them in before they actually have EMERGED on the grounds that having all the benefits of democracy without any of the responsibilities will somehow magically induce them to accept the latter. It's kinda like when a HS kid wants his first car so mom and dad say, "OK, get a job and pay for the car, the gas and the insurance. " Paying all those things for them won't convince them to assume those responsibilities on their own, it'll just be "free car; AWESOME111" Meanwhile, mom and dad have to pay the consequences when they wrap it around a tree, drive their friends to every party in town and blow through stop signs.
Honorbound and honored to be Bonded to Mahtaliel Sedai
Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!
LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!
LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Turkish Anti-Israel TV show angers Palestinians
- 06/04/2010 02:56:43 PM
559 Views
That is odd when the occupied is outraged at a movie made to look the occupier look bad *NM*
- 06/04/2010 04:50:05 PM
187 Views
I think it is a TV series, not a movie? Not a major point but still...
- 06/04/2010 05:03:08 PM
219 Views
Got to love the Saudis.
- 06/04/2010 05:05:31 PM
240 Views
And Turkey should be an EU member again because... why...?
- 06/04/2010 11:51:05 PM
200 Views
Yeah, damn them for letting the media say what it likes...
- 06/04/2010 11:57:37 PM
216 Views
"The drama, which was first broadcast on Turkey’s state television last October.... "
- 07/04/2010 12:46:35 AM
383 Views
TRT is like the BBC and many other public broadcasting channels...
- 07/04/2010 01:05:08 AM
318 Views
As I said, can you picture this on the BBC?
- 07/04/2010 01:17:10 AM
414 Views
No but better to not censor than censor seems a good rule
- 07/04/2010 10:03:52 AM
209 Views
Not when it's false, inflammatory and violent propaganda masquerading as "entertainment. "
- 07/04/2010 11:10:41 AM
199 Views
were you a medieval king, would you not censor blood libel ?
- 07/04/2010 12:31:44 PM
212 Views
As long as they don't criticize any nationalist politicians or the army. *NM*
- 07/04/2010 02:00:19 AM
82 Views
Well yes, that is what happens when you have a country with a constant threat of an army coup
- 07/04/2010 10:02:00 AM
208 Views
I could accept the latter on the condition of the former.
- 13/04/2010 10:12:01 AM
312 Views
You might need to have another look at your definitions
- 14/04/2010 11:34:01 AM
315 Views
It's hard for me to view a nation with a military government as "First World. "
- 14/04/2010 01:29:33 PM
314 Views
You do know Oklahoma isn't a country, right?
- 14/04/2010 09:51:21 PM
303 Views
- 14/04/2010 09:51:21 PM
303 Views
I'm a Texan; yes, I do. 
- 15/04/2010 02:42:45 PM
320 Views
- 15/04/2010 02:42:45 PM
320 Views
Fair point, I was forgetting that
- 15/04/2010 03:07:25 PM
341 Views
- 15/04/2010 03:07:25 PM
341 Views
I've been known to refer to OK as "North TX" but they don't like that.
- 20/04/2010 01:42:21 PM
343 Views
- 20/04/2010 01:42:21 PM
343 Views
As snoop says, your ridiculous hyperbole makes it hard to take the rest serious as well.
- 20/04/2010 06:45:40 PM
373 Views
Re: As snoop says, your ridiculous hyperbole makes it hard to take the rest serious as well.
- 21/04/2010 02:28:26 PM
348 Views
What am I talking to here, a wall?
- 21/04/2010 10:18:41 PM
341 Views
Just seems like every story I hear out of Turkey is something like this.
- 28/04/2010 02:33:31 AM
371 Views
Turkey shouldn't be in the EU.
- 07/04/2010 01:23:31 AM
216 Views
For the most part I agree.
- 07/04/2010 02:18:37 AM
388 Views
I gotta agree tactually
- 07/04/2010 03:51:02 AM
333 Views
Tactually? Adam will be insanely jealous.... 
- 13/04/2010 10:04:39 AM
327 Views
- 13/04/2010 10:04:39 AM
327 Views
At least they chose a nice/accurate vacation spot for the fake Palestinians 
*NM*
- 07/04/2010 12:56:31 AM
84 Views
*NM*
- 07/04/2010 12:56:31 AM
84 Views