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Re: That is one of the most tortuous definitions of quality I have seen in my life. ranagrande Send a noteboard - 13/09/2010 08:59:33 AM
The minimum system requirements are a good measure, but I would use them exactly opposite of the way you do. WoW's graphics win in that category over most modern games because they are able to function with fewer restrictions. They do more with less.


No, they do crap with less. They don't do more than anything.

Sure they do. If I load up WoW right now on my computer, I get graphics that are cartoony and sometimes even ugly, but adequate to play the game. If I load up Mass Effect 2 right now on my computer, I get graphics that are glitchy and sometimes entirely absent, and they make the game unplayable. Clearly, WoW has better graphics than Mass Effect 2.

Pong does not have better graphics than WoW. WoW does not have better graphics than Mass Effect 2. You're using better in two different ways and thereby conflating "better" quality with "better" value; the two are entirely different concepts.

I too am referring to "better" quality. WoW's graphics are superior to those of many modern games when played on the computer I currently use most often.

A $2000 computer likely has more quality than a $300 one. Now, if a person can't reasonably afford that computer or doesn't need the additional quality that it has, the $300 is a better value. But that doesn't mean that the $2000 computer is of a lesser quality. When you say the $300 computer is a "better purchase" for a typical user, you're making a value judgment, not a judgment based on quality.

Many more factors would need to be taken into consideration to determine whether the $2000 or $300 computer is a "better purchase." It isn't anywhere near as cut-and-dried as the automobile analogy, where Geos are almost always better than Ferraris.

We weren't actually comparing computers anyway; we were comparing computer graphics. So anyway, a game whose graphics can be properly displayed on my computer always has better graphics than one whose cannot.

You might counter by claiming that my computer cannot run the best graphics. That is a difference of philosophy that likely cannot be reconciled.

Apples and oranges.

They are very close, and a case could be made for the convenience and cost of the apple, but based on sheer nutritional value, oranges are better than apples.
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They matter to me. *NM* - 12/09/2010 02:58:50 AM 316 Views
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Oh I understand. - 12/09/2010 05:02:26 PM 558 Views
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You guys are not actually disagreeing. Aemon realizes this, but I'm not sure LL does - 12/09/2010 06:35:09 PM 605 Views
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I know, and I said as much. Several times. - 13/09/2010 05:17:14 AM 562 Views
Re: I know, and I said as much. Several times. - 13/09/2010 05:54:12 AM 623 Views
That is one of the most tortuous definitions of quality I have seen in my life. - 13/09/2010 06:11:59 AM 613 Views
Re: That is one of the most tortuous definitions of quality I have seen in my life. - 13/09/2010 08:59:33 AM 559 Views
Mass Effect 2 isn't that demanding if you have a desktop - 13/09/2010 02:46:09 PM 583 Views
I could, if I really wanted to - 13/09/2010 09:16:07 PM 689 Views
This is a meaningless conversation. - 13/09/2010 06:30:07 PM 538 Views
Not at all - 13/09/2010 09:25:08 PM 619 Views
below modern standards doesn't mean "bad" - 13/09/2010 04:16:41 AM 564 Views
Pong: great graphics or greatest graphics? - 13/09/2010 05:23:56 AM 626 Views
WoW graphics are bad for todays standards *NM* - 13/09/2010 05:32:32 AM 274 Views
You're a fucking idiot. - 13/09/2010 09:00:28 PM 543 Views
I'm arguing for the fun of it is what I'm arguing about - 13/09/2010 11:17:46 PM 583 Views
Please don't. - 14/09/2010 02:20:33 AM 568 Views
that's fine wish you were a cmb admin *NM* - 14/09/2010 03:35:19 AM 294 Views
Desktop or gtfo. *NM* - 12/09/2010 02:54:36 AM 255 Views
Seconded. *NM* - 13/09/2010 09:00:55 PM 349 Views
Why would I want to? *NM* - 13/09/2010 04:21:19 PM 286 Views
I can see how it would be sort of neat. - 13/09/2010 07:30:40 PM 493 Views
Something like that. - 13/09/2010 08:20:55 PM 644 Views
You can already do auction stuff - 13/09/2010 09:35:04 PM 613 Views
not to long - 27/09/2010 07:17:21 AM 723 Views

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