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It's not like I said they broke the game for me LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 11/04/2011 07:40:23 PM
Just that it irritated me. It's unnecessary. Population dynamics RARELY bother me. That's why it was so notable that they bothered me this time. Not to mention it's just bloody IRRITATING, not "fun", to be hit with wave after wave of thugs. I don't care much about combat. I'm in it for the story so when they waste my time with meaningless FLUFF combat, it's irritating.

There were many little problems with this game, along these lines. Illogical logistics, shamelessly repetitive dungeon maps, less "RPG" than "fetch-carry-kill-while-romancing". There were big problems, imo, too. The game had a lot of potential to involve the player in the politics of the city, but they more just had the PC take sides, which made people cranky or not. Politics? What was our "politics"? We declared a side but it didn't change anything. We couldn't shift the opinion of the people into ousting the knight commander on their own, we couldn't drive the knight commander into a mindless rage that began slaughtering every being in sight. The "politcking" in this game is blunt, clumsy and boring. The relationships are ham-handed and more about "appeasement" than actual relationship/character development. The story line is forked, but always converges again and is shallow and straight without many twists or turns. Pretty much the ONLY thing that shocked me was the blowing of the Chantry, but even then, it wasn't THAT shocking.

If it sounds like I have high standards, it's because I do. IMO, if amateurs can use the NWN toolset to make deep complex story lines, I don't expect any less out of professionals. Dance of the freakin' Rogues (that has entire paragraphs of dialogue dedicated to PORN) has a deeper storyline with more fun twists than this game.


For that matter, I don't think that complaining about the lack of depth (which I originally mentioned in my response title) is "petty". When you advertise a game as being about a character's rise to power in a city, one hopes for a bit of political maneuvering. There isn't any. There's side taking and killing people.

It's not that it's not PRETTY enough, or that they were lazy with their dungeons. Those are just little things on the list of "huge disappointments".

I'm sorry if I'm disappointed in a game that you are enjoying so much. I don't hate this game. But good money was spent on this game and I'm disappointed in it. I don't know WHY, but I keep expecting more out of the RPG industry. MY BAD.
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Bioware: Neglecting the Straight Male Gamer Kronin al'Sulc - 03/04/2011 11:15:30 PM 1599 Views
I think the OP is full of shit. LadyLorraine - 04/04/2011 01:23:28 AM 793 Views
Having Anders get pissed at you when you won't sleep with him is stupid. Ghavrel - 04/04/2011 01:35:58 AM 823 Views
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yah, definitely. that's pretty much WHY I have low romance standards LadyLorraine - 04/04/2011 11:58:50 PM 712 Views
*nm* Fox and Ravens - 04/04/2011 06:34:35 PM 707 Views
If that dude wasn't into Merrill, than he's a fag. *NM* Dan - 04/04/2011 01:28:55 AM 492 Views
They're neglecting the gamer demographic in DA2. Sexuality has nothing to do with it. Ghavrel - 04/04/2011 01:33:45 AM 739 Views
yah they were pretty empty. The only reason I'm not irritated is that at least they're completed. LadyLorraine - 04/04/2011 01:50:54 AM 776 Views
Don't worry; you'll be able to get it as overpriced DLC installments! *NM* Ghavrel - 04/04/2011 03:03:24 AM 354 Views
YES!!! That just makes me feel so much better!!! *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/04/2011 03:34:12 AM 312 Views
Re: yah they were pretty empty. [...] Macharius - 04/04/2011 01:37:47 PM 784 Views
So, not a fan? Dannymac - 04/04/2011 06:15:21 AM 824 Views
No. I haven't even finished because I'm so bored. Ghavrel - 04/04/2011 08:49:14 AM 744 Views
They could have done a LOT more with all the in-city strife. LadyLorraine - 04/04/2011 02:32:11 PM 729 Views
I don't feel bad paying for it, solely cause I never paid for DA1 *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 04/04/2011 10:01:43 PM 403 Views
Re: They could have done a LOT more with all the in-city strife. Dannymac - 08/04/2011 04:43:24 PM 851 Views
As far as excuses for developer laziness go, that's a pretty poor one. Ghavrel - 10/04/2011 12:02:23 AM 678 Views
Yah this is what I was talking about. The repeat of tunnel systems in totally unrelated areas. *NM* LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 05:32:11 PM 323 Views
It's not an excuse. Dannymac - 11/04/2011 06:36:45 PM 768 Views
Re: It's not an excuse. Ghavrel - 11/04/2011 07:06:11 PM 716 Views
No, it's not that they keep coming... LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 05:38:30 PM 701 Views
Re: No, it's not that they keep coming... Dannymac - 11/04/2011 06:41:30 PM 726 Views
...did you even read my main post in this thread? Ghavrel - 11/04/2011 07:08:31 PM 716 Views
It's not like I said they broke the game for me LadyLorraine - 11/04/2011 07:40:23 PM 762 Views
Something I wonder then: Why is it called Dragon Age "2"? Zalis - 04/04/2011 03:06:46 PM 752 Views
Pretty much. EA likes to churn out franchises. *NM* Ghavrel - 04/04/2011 07:41:57 PM 321 Views
Huh? Dannymac - 08/04/2011 04:59:49 PM 762 Views
Penny Arcade had a good post on this topic recently beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 09:39:21 PM 1155 Views
Point of fact: in DA: O you're fighting the Fifth Blight, not the First. Ghavrel - 09/04/2011 10:10:17 PM 835 Views
Yeah seriously, the Fifth Blight was pretty lame in retrospect beetnemesis - 11/04/2011 04:01:03 AM 740 Views
That's pretty much true. Ghavrel - 11/04/2011 04:08:48 AM 702 Views
Wow, yeah, you're right. Dannymac - 11/04/2011 06:43:40 PM 769 Views
I've actually liked the combat in most Bioware games beetnemesis - 04/04/2011 10:46:12 PM 829 Views
I think the fact that most NPC possibilities go either way is kind of weird. Zalis - 04/04/2011 05:41:04 AM 874 Views
Zevran was really the main one that would hit on you no matter what. Kronin al'Sulc - 04/04/2011 06:13:04 AM 917 Views
saying Zevran is kind of a slut... LadyLorraine - 04/04/2011 06:14:54 AM 704 Views
On a general note, what annoys me... Fanatic-Templar - 04/04/2011 07:19:32 AM 722 Views
In fairness to Bioware, in this game you get different bonuses for "rivalry." *NM* Ghavrel - 04/04/2011 08:50:29 AM 348 Views
Oh, that's nice. Fanatic-Templar - 04/04/2011 09:45:21 PM 724 Views
I will let you know when the game comes down to less than 20 bucks... MightyYT - 04/04/2011 07:50:06 AM 691 Views
Yea, the times I do play this game just gives me a longing for DA *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 04/04/2011 09:58:03 PM 417 Views
That's just bullshit Fox and Ravens - 04/04/2011 06:42:14 PM 714 Views
i bet he still initiated all his romances Foxhead - 05/04/2011 10:42:40 PM 716 Views
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