But it would raise other problems. Right now, the Paragon and Renegade scores are essentially the charm and intimidate scores of yore. If you replace them with a single charisma stat, then what role does the paragon/renegade score play? Nothing, basically, and they'd need to come up with something entirely new. And any alternatives would likely be either A: become stat-based gameplay things, which would suck, or B: turn into "keys" that unlock story-based events or options. Which brings us right back to your original problem.
I suppose you could try to have options that require some sort of middle ground (IE, this conversation option only unlocks if you have less than 50% renegade AND less than 50% paragon), but then the trick is to make that compelling. Which would be very difficult. Your choices become badass rebel, impervious soldier of order, and... something in the middle. The sorta badass, sorta righteous dude who's not particular strong in either category.
I think that this is an unsolvable problem, basically. There is no solution that wouldn't involve devaluing other parts of the game. At which point you're just making a different game.
I suppose you could try to have options that require some sort of middle ground (IE, this conversation option only unlocks if you have less than 50% renegade AND less than 50% paragon), but then the trick is to make that compelling. Which would be very difficult. Your choices become badass rebel, impervious soldier of order, and... something in the middle. The sorta badass, sorta righteous dude who's not particular strong in either category.
I think that this is an unsolvable problem, basically. There is no solution that wouldn't involve devaluing other parts of the game. At which point you're just making a different game.
This message last edited by lord-of-shadow on 28/02/2010 at 06:00:03 AM
Why not? Let's have a Mass Effect thread.
- 02/02/2010 05:02:32 PM
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Character discussion: Mordin Solus
- 02/02/2010 06:28:41 PM
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Mordin Solus is great
- 02/02/2010 08:21:26 PM
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Actually, that's what happened to me too.
- 02/02/2010 08:33:22 PM
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The Illusive man
- 02/02/2010 08:34:09 PM
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I didn't even realize that's who he was.
- 02/02/2010 08:44:07 PM
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- 02/02/2010 08:44:07 PM
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"I'm having trouble hearing you. I'm getting a lot of bullshit on this line." *NM*
- 02/02/2010 09:34:53 PM
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Who is sharing your bed?
- 02/02/2010 09:42:09 PM
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Tali for my male Shepherd
- 04/02/2010 03:52:03 PM
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Does she take the helmet off? *NM*
- 04/02/2010 07:57:18 PM
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I went simple - Miranda.
- 07/02/2010 06:32:25 AM
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Which reminds me that I always wondered...
- 07/02/2010 11:54:14 AM
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You probably wouldn't be able to woo anyone by being a total dick. *NM*
- 07/02/2010 03:32:41 PM
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I was lucky enough to meet the game's producer... (No spoilers)
- 02/02/2010 10:58:59 PM
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No spoilers here either, as per my rules.
Regarding the ammo:
- 03/02/2010 04:51:54 AM
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Regarding the ammo:
- 03/02/2010 04:51:54 AM
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I just want to be part of this....that said, Best Buy is no longer selling ME:1
- 02/02/2010 11:16:51 PM
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Could well be.
- 03/02/2010 04:52:49 AM
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Glad the PC version was $50, at the risk of sounding like a snob.
- 03/02/2010 04:01:52 PM
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Mass Effect 1 vs 2: RPG-shooter vs Shooter-rpg (This is for you, Cymbaline!) (No spoilers)
- 02/02/2010 11:28:24 PM
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The "Holy crap that was awesome" moments. SPOILERS
- 03/02/2010 11:27:55 PM
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Re: The "Holy crap that was awesome" moments. SPOILERS
- 04/02/2010 04:59:54 AM
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Re: The "Holy crap that was awesome" moments. SPOILERS
- 04/02/2010 06:16:29 AM
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Well. . .somewhat, I guess.
- 04/02/2010 06:43:02 AM
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Re: Well. . .somewhat, I guess.
- 04/02/2010 03:32:26 PM
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You know what? I'll actually buy that. I appreciate the explanation.
- 04/02/2010 06:30:37 PM
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A couple of more things......
- 16/02/2010 12:41:19 AM
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Game was too easy, primary plotline too short
- 04/02/2010 09:03:52 PM
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Nice.
I'm playing through on Insanity now, and I think it's a good challenge.
- 05/02/2010 02:17:02 AM
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I'm playing through on Insanity now, and I think it's a good challenge.
- 05/02/2010 02:17:02 AM
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Whats your character build?
- 05/02/2010 02:45:31 PM
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Ok, so male or female Shepherd?
- 05/02/2010 01:50:23 AM
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Hm. This brings up a thought.
- 05/02/2010 01:52:37 AM
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Male for my first playthrough, female for my second.
- 05/02/2010 02:28:24 AM
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Male so far. I plan on playing the female Shepard next playthrough. *NM*
- 05/02/2010 03:25:00 AM
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Your Teams, and Your Deaths.
- 07/02/2010 06:30:25 AM
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Re: Your Teams, and Your Deaths.
- 07/02/2010 09:07:17 AM
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Do you know...
- 07/02/2010 03:46:59 PM
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Re: Do you know...
- 07/02/2010 04:31:29 PM
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Awesome. Thanks! *NM*
- 07/02/2010 04:40:59 PM
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Yeah, that's what I did.
- 07/02/2010 06:37:50 PM
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Hmmm...
- 09/02/2010 03:48:48 PM
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Strange.
- 09/02/2010 04:19:04 PM
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me too
- 13/02/2010 03:01:05 PM
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Did you do Legion's loyalty mission?
- 15/02/2010 05:52:36 AM
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I did, for what it's worth.
- 15/02/2010 07:26:38 AM
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Gah. Then I wonder if loyalty of the rest of the crew has something to do with it.
- 15/02/2010 04:20:13 PM
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I have come across a big problem.
- 07/02/2010 06:53:36 PM
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Want FREE Mass Effect 2 DLC? ME 2! (har, har) Bioware bonus goodies detailed inside.
- 09/02/2010 07:03:23 PM
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Now if only the DLC armors didn't have helmets.
- 09/02/2010 07:26:47 PM
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Of course, the Shotgun is released AFTER I beat my Vanguard *sigh*
- 09/02/2010 11:31:13 PM
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It's nice, but you don't miss much if you already had the Claymore shotty w/ an ammo upgrade. *NM*
- 10/02/2010 05:16:00 AM
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Anyone find anything interesting about Zaeed Massani?
- 11/02/2010 09:08:16 PM
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I enjoy Zaeed.
- 11/02/2010 09:22:39 PM
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I'm near your spot in the story and completely agree. One-sided conversations, but worthwhile. *NM*
- 11/02/2010 10:20:47 PM
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Yeah, I've listened to him alot but it's the same stuff every time.
- 12/02/2010 03:14:11 PM
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Who, what, where?
*NM*
- 22/02/2010 08:18:31 PM
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*NM*
- 22/02/2010 08:18:31 PM
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If you bought a new copy of the game, it came with a code for the "Cerberus Network"
- 22/02/2010 08:22:18 PM
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Is there a way to install the game on the Xbox, so you don't have to switch discs?
- 12/02/2010 01:39:07 AM
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Good ones have two discs, of course.
DVDs can only hold so much. *NM*
- 12/02/2010 02:46:39 AM
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DVDs can only hold so much. *NM*
- 12/02/2010 02:46:39 AM
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This is the first I've ever seen. *NM*
- 12/02/2010 02:51:34 AM
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I've never understood why people are unhappy with the multiple discs.
- 12/02/2010 04:18:42 AM
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So far, so great!
- 12/02/2010 08:35:00 AM
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Re: So far, so great!
- 12/02/2010 02:31:43 PM
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Re: So far, so great!
- 16/02/2010 10:17:12 PM
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Nope, I was referring to honest-to-goodness cheating. lol
- 16/02/2010 11:03:53 PM
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Ahh, I just figured you were on console as I am, so.....the grind will continue I guess
*NM*
- 17/02/2010 06:41:59 PM
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*NM*
- 17/02/2010 06:41:59 PM
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I love the detail put into this game.
- 12/02/2010 02:58:35 PM
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"Our amino acids aren't even compatable so there's no risk if we go natural."
- 12/02/2010 03:15:50 PM
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Re: "Our amino acids aren't even compatable so there's no risk if we go natural."
- 12/02/2010 07:16:21 PM
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"Technically we don't even have sex drives... oh, she is rather flexible...." *NM*
- 12/02/2010 07:20:53 PM
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Female Turians....
- 12/02/2010 09:05:39 PM
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Nope. Don't exist in-game.
- 14/02/2010 01:47:23 AM
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I believe a krogan female is shown once.
- 14/02/2010 02:03:27 AM
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No I don't think that's right.
- 14/02/2010 08:54:32 AM
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Asari
- 15/02/2010 06:51:10 AM
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Not really.
- 15/02/2010 10:41:54 PM
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Though it is fun seeing the asari coupled with basically every race under the sun.
- 15/02/2010 10:54:41 PM
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The final verdict
- 22/02/2010 08:06:12 PM
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By the way, my game was surprisingly buggy
- 23/02/2010 08:49:28 AM
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A complaint about the Morality system. (Or, how Mass Effect semi-killed roleplaying).
- 27/02/2010 06:40:35 AM
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Re: A complaint about the Morality system. (Or, how Mass Effect semi-killed roleplaying).
- 27/02/2010 12:28:29 PM
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Re: A complaint about the Morality system. (Or, how Mass Effect semi-killed roleplaying).
- 27/02/2010 04:57:43 PM
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Re: A complaint about the Morality system. (Or, how Mass Effect semi-killed roleplaying).
- 28/02/2010 12:34:31 AM
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A vital part of role-playing is forcing the player to deal with the consequences of their actions
- 27/02/2010 11:53:56 PM
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Admittedly, my post was somewhat stream-of-consciousness.
- 28/02/2010 03:28:02 AM
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That's more understandable.
- 28/02/2010 05:58:59 AM
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