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The funny thing about violence is you can't control it. Tom Send a noteboard - 14/06/2017 04:31:35 PM

If the Left (and I use that term exclusively because the term "liberal" is misapplied to the Left, who have become extremely illiberal of late) believes that violence to stop "hate speech" is acceptable, they really should understand that violence can't be controlled. Even if we were to assume for an instant, arguendo, that it would not be evil per se to murder someone for hateful beliefs, we know that someone is then going to say that person's family is tainted with his beliefs and kill the children. Everyone draws the line at a different point, and when murder takes place, everyone's line is far beyond legitimacy. The very reason we prohibit violence is to protect basic freedoms. We need to circumscribe it even when legitimately used by the state to ensure that no abuse is possible.

Yet somehow, there is a growing belief on the Left that private violence is justified. Of course, if that is the case, then sooner or later I'm going to go around armed in response because I'll have to. If I have reason to believe that Leftists are going around murdering people due to their political beliefs, then if a Leftist starts harassing me my instinct will be to shoot them before I get shot. In this way paramilitary groups will form, just as the Spartacists in Weimar Germany spurred the formation of paramilitary groups. Believe me, I don't want that. I don't want to have to choose between a fascist future and a communist future. I don't want to have to choose between batshit crazy Social Justice Warriors and batshit crazy Daily Sturmers. But if the Left normalizes violence, then I'm going to have to pick a side because our normal political discourse will be dead. My favored methods of resolving disputes - debating, voting and suing - will become ineffective. So at that point I'll have to start singing "Der Rote kommt nie mehr zu Ruh' ".

Of course, once there are street battles between armed paramilitary groups it's only a matter of time before the actual military gets involved, which would lead to either civil war or a military coup. Neither of those are good for the US, and I suspect that the end result of either would not be something that the Left would be happy with. Far more people with guns and training are against the Left than on the Left. For every loser like Reality Winner there are probably 1,000 veterans who think the Antifa and SJWs are full of shit (rightly so). I suspect the numbers in active duty may be even higher.

So yes, this call to violence needs to stop, NOW. Either that or I'll go on a gun buying spree and make sure everyone in my family knows how to shoot with deadly accuracy.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

*MySmiley*
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The Left Won’t Rest Until Someone Gets Killed - 14/06/2017 02:47:58 PM 2000 Views
Totally agreed with this article... - 14/06/2017 03:58:40 PM 1296 Views
The funny thing about violence is you can't control it. - 14/06/2017 04:31:35 PM 1242 Views
So you thought that would scare me Tom? - 14/06/2017 09:30:34 PM 1203 Views
especially since the gunman has been identified - 14/06/2017 05:42:14 PM 1272 Views
And the penny drops... *NM* - 14/06/2017 05:59:30 PM 679 Views
Bernie isn't a Democrat, though - 14/06/2017 06:31:28 PM 1243 Views
How embarrassing that he accidentally ran for their presidential nomination! - 14/06/2017 07:18:57 PM 1162 Views
Not an accident - 14/06/2017 07:28:12 PM 1147 Views
And in Wonder Woman the Movie they wore different hats!!! - 14/06/2017 09:09:57 PM 1140 Views
You mean the Clinton cabal stopped him - 15/06/2017 04:22:41 AM 1130 Views
I think you give too much credit to the Clintons - 15/06/2017 04:49:26 AM 1222 Views
I would have actually respected her more... - 15/06/2017 07:07:08 PM 1097 Views
well no other democrats wanted to run against her there was an opening *NM* - 15/06/2017 09:41:50 PM 679 Views
There are valid points, but rather a lot of bullshit inbetween for my taste. - 14/06/2017 07:07:10 PM 1379 Views
Obviously excessive hyperbole is a problem from both sides - 14/06/2017 07:20:59 PM 1190 Views
Sure, I will admit that. - 14/06/2017 07:23:24 PM 1159 Views
There you go again. - 14/06/2017 07:52:47 PM 1221 Views
Yeah, that part sucked.... - 14/06/2017 09:14:10 PM 1098 Views
You know what I did? - 15/06/2017 04:16:08 AM 1210 Views
Good Idea.... - 15/06/2017 06:59:47 PM 1126 Views
Yup. Isn't it shocking? - 14/06/2017 09:18:45 PM 1191 Views
I find myself drifting more and more to the right - 14/06/2017 08:26:26 PM 1141 Views
I don't, or at least not in an American context, but I agree about the dead horse. - 14/06/2017 09:32:23 PM 1241 Views
That's not correct. - 15/06/2017 04:19:06 AM 1228 Views
I agree with Tom's premise, if not the content. - 15/06/2017 09:46:57 AM 1198 Views
I really should post more. We're letting Tom and Cannoli get away with far too much. *NM* - 15/06/2017 10:12:53 AM 607 Views
YES, YOU SHOULD - 15/06/2017 11:09:34 AM 1141 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 15/06/2017 02:45:40 PM 1055 Views
It would still be a pretty right-wing site - 15/06/2017 02:58:30 PM 1230 Views
funny you would say that - 15/06/2017 03:20:58 PM 1207 Views
I so miss Camilla. - 15/06/2017 08:50:36 PM 1113 Views
Camilla and the Aussies were our lefty leaders - 15/06/2017 09:04:12 PM 1242 Views
God I miss Wads - 15/06/2017 10:29:38 PM 1242 Views
D'oh! *NM* - 15/06/2017 03:20:58 PM 642 Views
*NM* - 15/06/2017 04:37:56 PM 697 Views
I never could tell when you were being sarcastic and when not. On the whole I'm thinking yes. *NM* - 15/06/2017 08:48:54 PM 571 Views
Hmm... I miss Camilla too. - 15/06/2017 08:55:04 PM 1011 Views
Sad but true - the left is truly unhinged, full of violence and hate - 15/06/2017 03:36:20 AM 1128 Views
I was considering making a post called "what the fuck is wrong with progressives?" - 15/06/2017 06:49:10 AM 1259 Views
It's because they have begun to eat themselves. - 15/06/2017 02:14:23 PM 1164 Views
Yeah, but... - 15/06/2017 02:46:51 PM 1223 Views
yes, that - 15/06/2017 03:20:00 PM 1157 Views
The day I realized that I didn't know every damned thing was when I at last gained a little wisdom. - 15/06/2017 03:30:07 PM 1098 Views
I get where you're coming from, but... - 15/06/2017 05:01:13 PM 1152 Views
Isn't that a good characterization of much of the Left? - 15/06/2017 04:09:10 PM 1106 Views
Maybe? A large section of the academic left, anyway - 15/06/2017 05:17:14 PM 1067 Views
Well, yeah - 15/06/2017 04:36:37 PM 1161 Views
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass... - 15/06/2017 10:40:42 PM 1236 Views
I can promise you they haven't read their history. - 16/06/2017 12:25:56 AM 1020 Views
No offense intended, but have *you* read it carefully? - 16/06/2017 01:41:19 AM 1335 Views
I've read it somewhat carefully. I think I said my point poorly, though. - 16/06/2017 03:23:26 AM 1145 Views
An obsession with the rule of law in Weimar Germany? - 16/06/2017 04:26:30 AM 1095 Views
She blocked me after telling me to go fuck myself. - 16/06/2017 04:38:43 AM 1049 Views
Sounds like a winner, that one - 16/06/2017 02:20:19 PM 1182 Views
Poor Weimar. - 16/06/2017 12:32:09 PM 1115 Views
Ha! - 16/06/2017 03:00:38 PM 1090 Views
Their shenanigans actually hurt their cause. - 15/06/2017 03:32:09 PM 1154 Views
Also, they're just puerile. Pussy hats? Seriously? If you want to be taken seriously, dress properly - 16/06/2017 12:36:36 AM 1207 Views
A short webcomic for you ghavrel - 16/06/2017 01:54:00 AM 1166 Views
Most Americans laugh at "microaggressions" and phrases like "toxic masculinity" - 16/06/2017 04:31:40 AM 1022 Views
I unironically use some of those - 16/06/2017 04:42:21 AM 1253 Views
Quit gaslighting me, dude *NM* - 16/06/2017 02:18:17 PM 598 Views
Why do you hate the word gaslighting? - 16/06/2017 08:42:34 PM 1083 Views
It's used by progressives whenever someone disagrees with them. - 16/06/2017 11:24:03 PM 1231 Views
So let me come at this from a different angle - 17/06/2017 04:48:37 AM 1136 Views
You're overthinking this. - 17/06/2017 10:28:47 AM 1214 Views
What are you even talking about? - 17/06/2017 11:01:42 AM 1261 Views
POC - 16/06/2017 01:54:31 PM 1117 Views
I would assume "POC" meant "piece of crap" - 16/06/2017 02:17:07 PM 1098 Views
Point of Contact - 16/06/2017 03:09:26 PM 1313 Views
WTF? "Good needs"? That doesn't even make any sense! - 16/06/2017 05:55:45 PM 1190 Views
I have some good needs - 16/06/2017 06:07:35 PM 1086 Views
I'll just bet you do. *NM* - 16/06/2017 06:13:23 PM 601 Views
Neither does "handicapped", honestly - 16/06/2017 07:18:15 PM 1159 Views
It will stop, the robots will one day take over - 16/06/2017 08:41:03 PM 1184 Views
My opinion on this - 16/06/2017 08:39:40 PM 1353 Views
No - 17/06/2017 07:11:17 AM 1087 Views
Belas, a rhetorical question, where do monsters come from? *NM* - 17/06/2017 08:58:00 AM 605 Views
These come from institutions of higher "learning" *NM* - 17/06/2017 05:07:47 PM 647 Views
under the bed or in the bedroom closet. d'uh. *NM* - 17/06/2017 05:30:05 PM 605 Views
POP - 16/06/2017 09:07:28 PM 1209 Views
Thought you were going to make a People of Penes / Penii joke - 16/06/2017 09:43:31 PM 1154 Views
That is the way I started to feel about the conserative movement - 15/06/2017 09:41:07 PM 1129 Views
President Mike Pence - 15/06/2017 03:53:15 PM 1160 Views
LOL - 15/06/2017 03:56:37 PM 1128 Views
Too much Jacobin. Not enough Jacques. - 15/06/2017 09:58:27 PM 1201 Views
RAWR, bows down to the sexiness - 15/06/2017 10:45:41 PM 1098 Views

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