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Why does he have to be a teen? Hasn't the character succeed commercially past high school? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 14/07/2017 05:33:29 AM

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The actor ages to fast so he is only good for one or two movies. We blame Hollywood because they keep making the same bad movies over and over again but it takes hundreds of millions of dollars to make a summer block buster movie but it also take the same hundreds of millions of dollars to make a summer flop. The guys dishing up the hundreds of millions want a sure thing and nothing is a sure thing like a A list Marvel movie.


One of my favorite parts of "Homecoming" was that we didn't have to see him getting bit by the spider or seeing his uncle get killed. Why do we ALWAYS have to see the origins of superheroes? We don't need to see the origins of other action heroes. Every attempt to show the origins of the Terminator robots has been panned by the fans, we never see John McClane or Riggs & Murtaugh or Axel Foley in the police academy. We didn't see John Rambo or Dutch from Predator or Brian Mills or the A-Team in basic training. We didn't see Ellen Ripley or Han Solo in astronaut school, or Indiana Jones getting his archaeology degree. Watching Darth Vader turn to the Dark Side of the Force is the most reviled part of the whole Star Wars franchise, including a veritable library of ridiculous & contradictory novels featuring worse dialog than anything George Lucas ever wrote, and a hack movie that was a ten-year-old's idea of a Star Wars sequel, which was basically "Star Wars, but BIGGER, with character shell games!"

The best thing Zack Snyder did was minimize the origin bits in Henry Cavill's & Ben Affleck's versions of Superman and Batman. We got just enough of Superman's backstory to explain the character's mindset & dilemma in the final act of the film, and enough of Batman's to explain his thread of connection to Superman, and why he would make his sudden change from viewing Superman as menace who must be preemptively eliminated to a human being who deserves the benefit of the doubt. I was fine my whole life never knowing why Batman did what he did, until halfway through the first Burton film. That's not to say I didn't enjoy the Star Wars prequels or the stuff set on Krypton in "Man of Steel" but that was for their own content, not because it related to who Darth Vader or Superman were. I was fine with Vader & Superman without that info, but they were entertaining in their own right. On the other hand, there are only so many ways to watch a couple getting mugged on the street, or a kid getting bitten by a spider, and we have absolutely exhausted the entertainment possibilities of "learning about new powers".

I also think we're hitting a point of diminishing returns on the high school drama of a superhero. I don't get how we are supposed to relate to the hero if he suffers things that everyone else finds annoying, except he has the compensation of super powers. Yeah, homework and bullies are a pain, but the rest of us are supposed to cope WITHOUT being able to climb walls unassisted or waking up with a rock-hard six pack, or secretly possessing superhuman strength. That does not make Peter Parker more relateable, it makes him a whiner. The stakes are so phenomenally low in anything connected to high school that it is even more ridiculous to try pairing them up against superhero=type activity. Even the romance stuff. Will he or won't he get a peck on the cheek from the hottest girl in school? WHO CARES! In an amazingly short time, he'll have graduated, be a free adult with an amazing array of options, even taking his lower-middle-class economic status, and be able to get laid. People manage without the help of super powers, and to suggest we should be invested in his mundane struggles because we share them is insulting.

I'll never understand why in Hollywood, anything you achieve in high school should be immediately forgotten lest you be accused of peaking or pathetically clinging to glory, but immature wants and desires from high school are all totally worthy and the fulfillment thereof an admirable goal. A guy who wins the state championship & is prom king, who goes on to lead an ordinary but decent life without a similarly extraordinary success is said to have peaked, with the implication of failure, but a guy who never lets go of his juvenile obsession with a pretty but shallow fellow child TOTALLY deserves to get with her and is somehow romantic, while people who seethe with hatred or resentment against those randomly gifted with a more fortunate childhood are justified in doing so and seeing the objects of their envy humiliated as adults is desirable and a restoration of order & balance.

Cannoli
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