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Re: And people misuse the subjunctive all the time. Your point? Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 27/07/2017 02:13:57 PM

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Can you honestly explain why this is different than demanding litter boxes in bathrooms for people who self-identify as cats? Will women who try to conceal their age legitimately be able to get driver's licenses changed if they self-identify as being younger? What exactly are you hanging your hat on here?

I think the most compelling argument in favor of there being a biological basis for transsexualism is the various imaging studies that have been done on the brains of trans people. Male and female brains tend to differ structurally from each other, and trans people generally have brains which have stereotypical elements of both male and female brains, in a way that differs from the general population. These structural differences exist pre-transition.

There have also been studies showing that trans people generally have hypothalamic reactions to certain sex-specific pheromones in the manner of their identified gender.

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Thoughts on the internet outrage over Trump's transgenders in the military announcement damookster - 26/07/2017 05:42:34 PM 1108 Views
Maybe because.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 06:08:16 PM 692 Views
I get that damookster - 26/07/2017 06:12:35 PM 704 Views
I don't think that your reasoning is flawed.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 06:31:06 PM 736 Views
bottom line damookster - 26/07/2017 06:40:36 PM 693 Views
*shrug* Jeordam - 26/07/2017 07:05:17 PM 672 Views
I dare say a lot of the rhetoric is seriously over the top... Legolas - 26/07/2017 06:13:59 PM 714 Views
like I replied to Jeo, I don't see this as a betrayal of the LGBT cause damookster - 26/07/2017 06:19:01 PM 709 Views
LGB is not the same as T. We need to stop treating it all the same. Tom - 26/07/2017 06:58:05 PM 722 Views
No the least of which... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 07:06:21 PM 750 Views
Physical mutilation is a more appropriate word. Tom - 26/07/2017 07:07:33 PM 686 Views
You're correct.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:28:20 PM 646 Views
Not always, keep that in mind. Legolas - 26/07/2017 07:35:34 PM 687 Views
I would still consider that.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:02:36 PM 717 Views
John McCain is the Left's favorite RINO Tom - 26/07/2017 08:09:41 PM 735 Views
He's not a RINO. Just built his career on being independent-minded. Legolas - 26/07/2017 09:49:32 PM 736 Views
I really don't see the independence. Where is it? Tom - 27/07/2017 01:33:27 AM 720 Views
So which is it, is he a RINO or a faithful Republican foot soldier? Legolas - 27/07/2017 08:08:04 PM 767 Views
RINOs are a pack. Tom - 28/07/2017 12:46:44 AM 689 Views
Agreed with McCain The Shrike - 27/07/2017 03:35:06 PM 676 Views
It makes eminent sense why trannies shouldn't be allowed. Tom - 26/07/2017 06:57:00 PM 721 Views
I tried to keep my points to the logic of excluding an 18 yr old trans person damookster - 26/07/2017 07:16:37 PM 746 Views
I don't have any desire to stop people from doing it Tom - 26/07/2017 07:32:08 PM 681 Views
I agree damookster - 26/07/2017 07:59:18 PM 765 Views
Absolutely agree on all counts *NM* Cannoli - 27/07/2017 06:40:03 AM 367 Views
You don't need to be 'straight' to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight. Joel - 27/07/2017 10:14:11 PM 728 Views
You're an idiot. *NM* Tom - 28/07/2017 12:47:21 AM 357 Views
You also need to pass some sort of physical standards Cannoli - 28/07/2017 03:52:14 AM 715 Views
So I was reading.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:07:11 PM 697 Views
This is part of my point Tom - 26/07/2017 09:47:39 PM 704 Views
The rate goes down significantly after transition. Ghavrel - 26/07/2017 11:24:50 PM 679 Views
Bullshit. Tom - 27/07/2017 01:40:05 AM 787 Views
I also like that study because it uses correct terminology: transsexual, sex-reassigned. Tom - 27/07/2017 01:42:19 AM 716 Views
Gender has had a non-grammatical meaning since the 1950s, and you know it. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 03:05:09 AM 687 Views
And people misuse the subjunctive all the time. Your point? Tom - 27/07/2017 04:57:19 AM 728 Views
Re: And people misuse the subjunctive all the time. Your point? Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:13:57 PM 716 Views
That's not necessarily a biological difference Tom - 27/07/2017 05:03:30 PM 775 Views
or liposuction or laser fat removal too. *NM* damookster - 27/07/2017 05:06:56 PM 388 Views
Facelifts, tummy tucks, collagen implants, nose jobs... *NM* Tom - 27/07/2017 05:09:01 PM 369 Views
Not bullshit. The rate decreases. It is still elevated relative to the general population. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 03:00:15 AM 722 Views
"transition is the cure" Tom - 27/07/2017 04:50:11 AM 725 Views
Sloppy wording on my part. Transition is currently the most effective known cure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:18:41 PM 716 Views
Yes, but that just argues against transsexuals in the military either way Tom - 27/07/2017 05:04:39 PM 650 Views
Yes, and I don't feel particularly strongly about the current fiasco for that reason. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:51:29 PM 719 Views
Yes, I am waiting for one of our veterans to weigh in with their thoughts. *NM* damookster - 27/07/2017 06:13:19 PM 366 Views
For what it's worth.... Jeordam - 28/07/2017 10:36:22 PM 722 Views
I have a friend who was an officer in the army who feels the same way. Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 12:37:48 AM 669 Views
which should then close the debate on the original question damookster - 27/07/2017 05:07:34 AM 718 Views
Exactly. *NM* Tom - 27/07/2017 01:26:48 PM 373 Views
Well, to the extent that it covers people with dysphoria, sure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:26:26 PM 662 Views
As I said above, Viagra treats a dysfunction Tom - 27/07/2017 05:08:19 PM 710 Views
also, to a point you made earlier damookster - 27/07/2017 05:39:32 PM 678 Views
Well, that's an argument for not putting them in roles where they can be captured, sure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:53:02 PM 652 Views
The argument is that transition corrects the dysfunction of gender dysphoria. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:49:24 PM 680 Views
So let me understand your position correctly via asking a few questions Roland00 - 28/07/2017 04:01:50 AM 729 Views
Too long Tom - 28/07/2017 01:54:11 PM 705 Views
The main reason for the post was the standard you created Roland00 - 28/07/2017 05:00:27 PM 666 Views
Reductio ad absurdum, Roland? damookster - 28/07/2017 05:29:23 PM 651 Views
I know Tom and Cannoli don't care, but on the off chance that you do... Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 12:39:16 AM 715 Views
I didn't realize that damookster - 29/07/2017 01:10:30 AM 633 Views
Also trivia Roland00 - 29/07/2017 01:22:37 AM 618 Views
No worries. I'm not offended. I just thought you might want to know. *NM* Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 02:32:01 AM 336 Views
Thanks damookster - 29/07/2017 03:25:08 AM 637 Views
I don't? *NM* Cannoli - 29/07/2017 08:23:14 AM 380 Views
Yeah, I really don't care. Though I use the term for a different reason. Tom - 29/07/2017 07:12:03 PM 676 Views
So right now let me share the joke that is happening in my mind Roland00 - 29/07/2017 07:28:22 PM 618 Views
Girlfriend Mookie, you are projecting onto me. Roland00 - 29/07/2017 01:17:47 AM 723 Views
I absolutely respect you, Roland/Matt damookster - 29/07/2017 01:40:28 AM 640 Views
We are cool Roland00 - 29/07/2017 02:36:00 AM 691 Views
Blah blah blah and now I am showing off like an asshole Roland00 - 29/07/2017 02:52:48 AM 641 Views
you're a nice guy, Roland00 damookster - 29/07/2017 03:22:15 AM 665 Views
OMG mookie gave me the Nice Guy speech / Good Guy speech Roland00 - 29/07/2017 07:41:23 PM 612 Views
I've never seen Newsroom damookster - 29/07/2017 08:00:38 PM 647 Views
Teases I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too! Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:13:30 PM 667 Views
Nah, I'm not that subtle. damookster - 29/07/2017 11:01:39 PM 604 Views
Edit: Double Posted due to bad wifi *NM* Roland00 - 28/07/2017 04:01:51 AM 363 Views
Serving its end: As long as everyone argues over this, no one talks about Trumpcare nor Russiagate Joel - 27/07/2017 10:05:00 PM 650 Views
What's horrible is the portmandu with -gate......Can we just let that one go yet? *NM* Jeordam - 27/07/2017 10:51:20 PM 351 Views
Joel, seriously damookster - 29/07/2017 08:33:14 PM 682 Views
No the real boogeymen are the ones we do not see with our eyes, but are still lurking in the shadows Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:16:34 PM 590 Views
And Rejoice Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:17:42 PM 644 Views
You are mixing up your metaphors, it is sleight of hand not sleight of mind Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:20:17 PM 652 Views
Everybody Is Missing The Mark Here MrFarstrider - 29/07/2017 10:25:04 PM 774 Views
Nice comments. Thanks for that explanation. *NM* damookster - 29/07/2017 11:15:29 PM 368 Views
Also, For the Record MrFarstrider - 30/07/2017 08:02:58 AM 806 Views
Incite or Insight *NM* Roland00 - 01/08/2017 06:30:28 AM 350 Views
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