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Oh, that people voted for him over Clinton, I can understand well enough. Legolas Send a noteboard - 21/09/2017 09:02:50 PM

But just because you made that vote at the time, figuring he was the lesser of two evils and all, doesn't mean you have to keep defending him now. Or pretend that he's a conservative.

View original postIt's not what I voted for him, but I can see the appeal. When you have almost the entire media saying and doing things that were unheard of before him...that gets you. When you see analysis of handshakes, of the shoes his wife has on, or reaction to something that he hasn't said yet because it's perceived not fast enough...or too fast. That gets you.

View original postAnd then on top of that you see people saying the white USC mascot horse is racist....you see people saying a floral display in a store is racist....and in the very next breath they say that Trump is racist because he has the audacity to say that the Dreamer program should be handled in the Legislature?

View original postIt can all start to roll up into what you're talk about.

Yeah. Makes sense.

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I don't care if Trump deputizes the Klan or outlaws Spanish; Rocket Man is worth it. Cannoli - 21/09/2017 01:00:46 AM 1381 Views
Rocket Man was hilarious. damookster - 21/09/2017 02:57:15 AM 705 Views
I'm actually coming to respect him a little more... Jeordam - 21/09/2017 04:51:06 PM 753 Views
Cordelia was one of the few Sunnydale High students I liked or for whom I had any respect Cannoli - 21/09/2017 05:17:56 PM 786 Views
Cordelia was a great character.... Jeordam - 21/09/2017 07:11:18 PM 678 Views
He's brilliant in strategy Tom - 21/09/2017 08:34:51 PM 782 Views
It is fun to watch Jeordam - 21/09/2017 08:52:25 PM 756 Views
Are you sure that's strategy? nossy - 24/09/2017 08:39:19 AM 685 Views
Pretty sure Tom - 24/09/2017 11:07:00 PM 702 Views
that is funny random thoughts - 21/09/2017 07:03:17 PM 783 Views
You said something similar a while back. And really, I just don't get it. Legolas - 21/09/2017 07:52:31 PM 867 Views
Oh, and just to add... Legolas - 21/09/2017 07:55:35 PM 747 Views
such as? Jeordam - 21/09/2017 08:16:48 PM 769 Views
Alright, let's see. Legolas - 21/09/2017 08:46:43 PM 775 Views
And yet....and yet....and yet.... Jeordam - 21/09/2017 09:13:30 PM 738 Views
Now I'm curious. Legolas - 21/09/2017 09:40:32 PM 628 Views
Sure, I'll bite... Jeordam - 21/09/2017 10:07:00 PM 684 Views
In the immortal words of Dennis Leary "We got the bombs" Who cares if Iran is the adult in the room? Cannoli - 22/09/2017 11:22:43 PM 743 Views
He's right on socialism Tom - 25/09/2017 12:42:26 AM 686 Views
What about market socialism? Coops are decently popular. Ocean Spray is doing fine. *NM* Ghavrel - 25/09/2017 01:28:19 AM 367 Views
Ocean Spray is not a socialist venture in any way that I can see. Tom - 25/09/2017 01:45:44 AM 759 Views
Sure, by the original meaning of the word. Legolas - 25/09/2017 05:22:50 PM 698 Views
People misuse words all the time (cf. ironic). That's their problem. Tom - 25/09/2017 07:25:55 PM 695 Views
I'm making the argument... Legolas - 26/09/2017 07:12:56 PM 788 Views
Socialists are taking it back aerocontrols - 26/09/2017 08:03:39 PM 714 Views
...democratic... fascism? *NM* Ghavrel - 26/09/2017 08:22:36 PM 373 Views
Sure aerocontrols - 26/09/2017 08:32:17 PM 684 Views
It's an interesting idea. Ghavrel - 27/09/2017 02:19:19 AM 749 Views
Sounds like Singapore to me. *NM* aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 02:33:06 AM 357 Views
See, I wouldn't call Singapore democratic. Ghavrel - 27/09/2017 05:03:14 AM 629 Views
Did you see their hilarious presidential 'election' recently? *NM* Legolas - 27/09/2017 07:55:15 AM 402 Views
*shrug* aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 01:05:47 PM 651 Views
I think that's a weakness of your spectrum argument, though. Ghavrel - 27/09/2017 11:06:16 PM 586 Views
the non military is the further stretch random thoughts - 27/09/2017 02:16:03 PM 681 Views
lol aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 02:37:00 PM 668 Views
Hmm. Legolas - 27/09/2017 06:52:46 PM 686 Views
Almost missed this reply, hiding down here. aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 09:40:41 PM 668 Views
Uh. You say no, but what follows makes it sound like yes? Legolas - 27/09/2017 11:42:11 PM 768 Views
You're again making an idiotic argument Tom - 27/09/2017 07:25:36 PM 707 Views
Which you then did your best to prove? Thank you for that, by the way. Legolas - 27/09/2017 09:13:28 PM 749 Views
No, socialist is socialist. What is so hard about that? Tom - 28/09/2017 05:05:27 AM 663 Views
I don't get it. I mean I get it but I don't get it. AgentApple - 26/09/2017 08:34:25 PM 670 Views
As if there wasn't enough getting and not getting in this thread already. Pick one! Legolas - 27/09/2017 12:13:13 AM 753 Views
I made the mistake of bothering to try reading a New York Times article Tom - 29/09/2017 12:38:07 AM 835 Views
It was a brilliant speech all around, and you don't understand Trump based on those comments. Tom - 21/09/2017 08:32:29 PM 699 Views
He's doing jack shit. He tells people everything they want to hear, then blames Congress... Legolas - 21/09/2017 08:57:36 PM 742 Views
That's absolutely not what he's doing Tom - 22/09/2017 09:54:34 PM 684 Views
If you say so. Legolas - 25/09/2017 05:31:00 PM 726 Views
I can see where you're coming from... Jeordam - 21/09/2017 08:50:03 PM 732 Views
Oh, that people voted for him over Clinton, I can understand well enough. Legolas - 21/09/2017 09:02:50 PM 623 Views
Of course I'm going to defend him.. Jeordam - 21/09/2017 09:19:32 PM 672 Views
PC is about much more than not saying things to offend people random thoughts - 22/09/2017 01:26:16 PM 729 Views
It is? Like what? Legolas - 25/09/2017 06:37:01 PM 658 Views
By the by Jeordam - 25/09/2017 07:23:39 PM 657 Views
That's a good point. Legolas - 26/09/2017 06:44:13 PM 626 Views
I get it.... Jeordam - 26/09/2017 09:00:35 PM 608 Views
Re: It is? Like what? random thoughts - 25/09/2017 08:09:53 PM 760 Views
Re: It is? Like what? ßelals Girl - 26/09/2017 02:08:17 PM 721 Views
Trump lost credibility to me on the 'anti-PC' / 'pro free speech' issue aerocontrols - 26/09/2017 07:54:06 PM 629 Views
Yes, the "snowflake" accusation is rather hard to take seriously from people upset about the flag. *NM* Ghavrel - 26/09/2017 08:24:29 PM 320 Views
Let's hold the phone here for a moment.... Jeordam - 26/09/2017 09:07:07 PM 636 Views
Too late to hold the phone! The horses are out of the barn. aerocontrols - 26/09/2017 09:20:06 PM 649 Views
Yeah. And not just Trump. Legolas - 26/09/2017 11:59:05 PM 628 Views
Re: Yeah. And not just Trump. aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 02:27:40 AM 642 Views
keep it in one thread n00b damookster - 27/09/2017 02:52:55 AM 704 Views
I saw a statistic somewhere in an article about the controversy... Legolas - 27/09/2017 06:47:04 PM 625 Views
80% of the players may be black but a similar percentage of the fans are white random thoughts - 28/09/2017 12:59:57 PM 631 Views
Makes sense. But if 80 percent of your players is taking the other position... Legolas - 28/09/2017 06:43:23 PM 932 Views
Don't confuse PC with social norms random thoughts - 27/09/2017 02:21:49 PM 592 Views
So... aerocontrols - 27/09/2017 02:39:01 PM 646 Views
and it has been very affective random thoughts - 28/09/2017 12:55:06 PM 672 Views
Re: You said something similar a while back. And really, I just don't get it. Cannoli - 22/09/2017 11:59:19 PM 696 Views
He was in town today, stumping for Luther Strange aerocontrols - 23/09/2017 03:58:49 AM 714 Views
You're an Alabamian, huh? Me too! TyrReborn - 26/09/2017 06:05:24 PM 596 Views
I'm a Kansan, I live in 'Bama aerocontrols - 26/09/2017 06:19:13 PM 630 Views
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