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Hold your fire. Nargs Send a noteboard - 04/10/2017 06:39:03 AM

You really have been shooting from the hip spouting off common liberal talking points. They're tired, boring, and misleading.

I recommend you watch the linked video for a proper education on the subject.

Here is a summary.

You are very liberal with your view on what a Mass Shooting is. "Absolute Crap". Might I posit that your definition of mass shooting is, based on messages you've posted, any time more than one person was shot. The way that Mother Jones (a left leaning magazine that is intellectually honest about it) defines a mass shooting is any shooting that has 4 or more people who are killed and also is not a gang shooting and is also not domestic violence and is not robbery.

This is what the honest and the majority of people consider a mass shooting. With that said, the number of mass shootings in the US is quite low. In 2015, Mother Jones came up with 4 mass shootings. Not 355. Just 4. And that accounted for 46 deaths. How many federal homicides were there involving guns in 2015? Almost 13,000.

Yet the gun debate only comes up when there is a mass shooting. Why isn't it more of a concern to you with the normal homicide rate? When a mass shooting occurs accounting for 0.3% of the gun homicide rate, you jump up on your high horse and preach that we are doing things wrong in this distant part of the world.

The reason for this weird behavior by you and your fellow liberal thinkers is because the gun homicide rate has been going down steadily for the past 20 years so its hard to make a case that WE over HERE should adopt gun control when the murder rate has been dropping. Murder rate per 100,000 is down. It is not up.

This chart shows the firearm homicide rate steadily declining since 1981:
http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2013/05/SDT-2013-05-gun-crime-1-2.png

When you see a lot of statistics about the rise in firearm related deaths, you are conflating 2 kinds of deaths. Suicide and Homicide. The number of suicides has risen and when you conflate the 2 and call them gun related deaths and dishonestly show that as a rise in gun homicides, you're a jack ass.

There is no correlation between getting rid of guns and drop in suicide rates.

More guns in a state does not mean higher gun homicide rate.
But for some reason... when you take a look at this chart:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.washingtonexaminer.biz/web-producers/100315-beltway-Image-One.jpg

You could easily be fooled into believing that states with more guns have more gun homicides but what they've dishonestly done is shown you a chart about gun deaths including suicides and not merely gun homicides.

When we look at a more honest chart showing firearms homicide rate:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.washingtonexaminer.biz/web-producers/100315-beltway-Image-Two.jpg

This shows no correlation between more guns and homicides.

And then we take a look at the firearm homcide rates by state:
http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.washingtonexaminer.biz/web-producers/100315-beltway-Image-Three.jpg

Notice how the states with higher rates are states with big cities in them? 60% of gun murders happen in the top 50 metro areas. And those tend to be Democrat areas. The murders aren't happening out in the back woods of Texas or Arkansas.

From 1993 to 2013, the number of guns per person rose from 0.94 to 1.45 and the gun homicide rate has been falling dramatically.

You, TheCrownless, are doing your part to spread fake news and propaganda. Politically egregious. And morally egregious. You're a terrible person if this is your M.O.

Again, I recommend you watch the linked video through at least the first 15 minutes which I have summarized above.

Ben Shaprio - Ep 394
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Hold your fire. - 04/10/2017 06:39:03 AM 731 Views
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