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Should change occur in one's lifetime or only seen through a generational prism? *NM* Roland00 Send a noteboard - 23/01/2018 11:07:47 PM

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I'm not arguing that the language should be "ossified" as you put it. I'm just saying change should be organic and slow, not artificial and fast. "Organic and slow" makes concessions to changes in usage, spelling, etc. that stick. "Artificial and fast" makes concessions to the stupid and ignorant, who won't appreciate it anyway.

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The Fascinating History of 10 Extra Letters the English Alphabet Used to Have The Shrike - 18/01/2018 06:35:45 PM 1267 Views
I have to take issue with the & and the "long s" Tom - 18/01/2018 07:28:09 PM 592 Views
Ok, let's define what a letter is. The Shrike - 18/01/2018 11:25:22 PM 647 Views
Yes, the long "s" is just a variant. It didn't have a name in Old English. Tom - 19/01/2018 03:39:51 PM 788 Views
I don't think not having a name in Old English matters here. The Shrike - 19/01/2018 05:05:47 PM 900 Views
I think it does, quite definitively. Tom - 20/01/2018 08:46:24 PM 644 Views
All th Germans I have known have considered ß to be a letter. The Shrike - 20/01/2018 11:01:40 PM 712 Views
ß is a ligature Tom - 21/01/2018 04:04:48 PM 598 Views
That article is even sloppier than the first Tom - 20/01/2018 09:01:33 PM 596 Views
All letters were once "fake". The Shrike - 20/01/2018 10:59:11 PM 690 Views
Isn't that kind of idealist Roland00 - 21/01/2018 08:02:14 AM 628 Views
Realist perhaps The Shrike - 22/01/2018 01:54:14 AM 598 Views
Pivots Roland00 - 22/01/2018 03:43:56 AM 711 Views
Meanwhile The Shrike - 22/01/2018 12:23:13 PM 559 Views
Olympics are grand aren't they? *NM* Roland00 - 22/01/2018 05:23:56 PM 327 Views
Deutschland, Deutschland! The Shrike - 22/01/2018 05:26:50 PM 491 Views
No, actually that's quite incorrect. Tom - 21/01/2018 04:14:18 PM 630 Views
You've missed the point. The Shrike - 22/01/2018 01:53:59 AM 649 Views
No, I'm trying to show the qualitative difference between the two events. Tom - 22/01/2018 04:34:20 PM 528 Views
The letter J? *NM* Roland00 - 22/01/2018 05:19:14 PM 384 Views
No, J is a lot like the long s. Tom - 22/01/2018 07:23:01 PM 582 Views
Feels we are talking past each other. Roland00 - 22/01/2018 07:52:53 PM 667 Views
You're wrong. Tom - 23/01/2018 01:21:26 AM 700 Views
Agreed. Ligatures aren't letters. *NM* Ghavrel - 19/01/2018 06:13:43 AM 357 Views
Eh . . . the Ampersand is probably now considered a logogram rather than a ligature. The Shrike - 19/01/2018 01:27:21 PM 581 Views
ſ is just a variant. *NM* Tom - 19/01/2018 03:40:53 PM 406 Views
I enjoy this thread muchly...yet I will not participate besides saying Roland00 - 19/01/2018 10:46:40 PM 586 Views
You're using sublime too often; it's losing its luster The Shrike - 20/01/2018 12:15:10 AM 622 Views
Do I? (in regards to sublime) Roland00 - 20/01/2018 12:46:35 AM 589 Views
(in regards to sublime) damookster - 20/01/2018 03:18:04 PM 612 Views
Brilliant! *NM* Floffe - 20/01/2018 03:38:39 PM 347 Views
The Shrike - 20/01/2018 11:20:11 PM 600 Views
*NM* globug0822 - 23/01/2018 09:18:01 PM 336 Views
Is this payback for the irritating word, Umami? Roland00 - 24/01/2018 07:25:56 AM 504 Views
Upapi? *NM* damookster - 25/01/2018 08:41:14 PM 374 Views
Thank all gods everywhere they are gone. LiterateDog - 22/01/2018 12:23:34 PM 590 Views
Some other letters should go too. The Shrike - 22/01/2018 01:12:31 PM 652 Views
How would you replace the ch sound? Roland00 - 22/01/2018 04:15:04 PM 599 Views
I'm against removing letters that have done perfectly well for over 2500 years, thank you Tom - 22/01/2018 04:41:23 PM 568 Views
And I am not. We have had this debate before. To each his own. :-) The Shrike - 22/01/2018 05:22:36 PM 553 Views
Attic Greek was written in uncials that are easy to read Tom - 22/01/2018 07:24:51 PM 563 Views
I thought of removing C, as well. LiterateDog - 22/01/2018 06:16:20 PM 580 Views
The CH is a problem. The Shrike - 22/01/2018 06:34:47 PM 501 Views
And calling people you don't like "fu king unts"? *NM* Tom - 22/01/2018 07:25:29 PM 441 Views
Meanwhile if it were written as fuking kunts, no one would have any issues The Shrike - 22/01/2018 07:54:41 PM 663 Views
I have an issue, kunts looks too much like nuts or knuts Roland00 - 22/01/2018 08:09:52 PM 587 Views
Would you prefer a Knut? The Shrike - 22/01/2018 10:55:09 PM 548 Views
Yes I like my internet memes and thus I do not want to be confused by that word sometimes directed Roland00 - 23/01/2018 10:28:58 PM 540 Views
Yes, ask him The Shrike - 24/01/2018 01:32:08 AM 556 Views
Totes I will ask him about Tot *NM* Roland00 - 24/01/2018 09:49:45 PM 372 Views
Yes, about the meanings. Pronounced quite differently. Legolas - 25/01/2018 06:17:22 PM 659 Views
Scheisse. I did forget it. The Shrike - 26/01/2018 05:24:21 PM 557 Views
You mean Scheiße? *NM* Tom - 26/01/2018 06:49:26 PM 364 Views
No. I mean Scheisse. *NM* The Shrike - 26/01/2018 07:15:21 PM 377 Views
*NM* Tom - 26/01/2018 11:07:18 PM 428 Views
*NM* The Shrike - 28/01/2018 02:15:03 AM 355 Views
all those k's.... damookster - 22/01/2018 08:23:09 PM 533 Views
So . . . no Klondike bars or Kit Kats for you. The Shrike - 22/01/2018 10:55:53 PM 639 Views
But it would look "fuking" stupid Tom - 23/01/2018 01:30:15 AM 566 Views
All languages change The Shrike - 23/01/2018 01:40:18 AM 539 Views
They change, but resistance is not futile. Tom - 23/01/2018 02:10:17 AM 609 Views
Also, you're not talking about the language changing. You're talking about changing the language. Tom - 23/01/2018 02:16:39 AM 626 Views
I am being a realist who understands that spellings change. Letters get dropped. Language evolves. The Shrike - 23/01/2018 06:53:25 PM 684 Views
It is posts like this that remind me why you are my RAFO tree Roland00 - 23/01/2018 10:29:53 PM 531 Views
Nope sadly he did not *NM* Roland00 - 23/01/2018 10:30:09 PM 294 Views
What are you talking about here? The Shrike - 24/01/2018 12:21:55 PM 577 Views
I am talking about Logograms Roland00 - 24/01/2018 09:48:48 PM 574 Views
Evolution, not revolution Tom - 23/01/2018 10:54:37 PM 682 Views
Should change occur in one's lifetime or only seen through a generational prism? *NM* Roland00 - 23/01/2018 11:07:47 PM 349 Views
I guess it depends on how long one's life is. Tom - 23/01/2018 11:39:40 PM 564 Views
It's also one of the reasons I am against the 1918 spelling reforms in Russia. Tom - 23/01/2018 02:06:34 AM 686 Views
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