Ishamael tried ripping out Rand's soul in the heart of stone at the end of TDR. It only failed when Rand grasped Callandor and started pulling on the OP through it.
<quotew>And of course, the connection to the OP is connected to the soul, meaning that Nynaeve(and everyone else that knows the weave) delved the soul of everyone whose connection to the OP she healed... Also, shields to block the OP go on the soul... And Warder bonds likely do as well. We don't know that it's connected through the soul. We know that the ability to channel is essential to a person beyond their physical qualities. That does not mean the connection to the Power is not physical. Channeling having physical effects on the channler in fact proves there IS a physical connection to the Power.
No evidence at all that it has anything to do with a soul. It would be an alien consciousness taking over Rand's body or place in the world if they won, but it was a physical struggle, not anything to do with a soul.
If you want someone held in place, you can simply tie them up with Air. If you want someone dead... There are thousands of ways to do it, and exactly WHAT are you supposed to "do" with their soul?
Perhaps if the ways and hows of Shadar Logoth's brand of magic were wide spread or commonly known, there would be more of a market for just going around ripping peoples souls out, but... They aren't, and there isn't.
Yeah, this could be all bullshit, but its how I reconcile my own belief in metaphysical existence with fiction which features ghosts and psychic phenomena and the use of souls. When you sell your soul to a demonic entity, you can't actually do that, so what you are actually giving up is a higher level of existence, that will almost certainly result in your damnation when THAT level ends and you go on to your eternal reward, but for it to mean anything, the only thing that effect THAT end is your own actions and mentality, your ability to align yourself in tune with a higher state of being, to sing along with the music of Iluvatar, for an example. If whether you go to heaven or hell is affected by the actions of a third party, heaven and hell don't mean anything. So they are pit stops along the way, for that spirit-body, that intermediate level beyond the physical, but which in genre fiction, really manifests and interacts with the physical.
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The Christian concept of soul, maybe. But RJ was clearly not sourcing his ideas from there...
- 03/03/2019 06:45:13 PM
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The Christian concept of soul, maybe. But RJ was clearly not sourcing his ideas from there...
- 03/03/2019 07:15:08 PM
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