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Yeah I wouldn't write off Europe fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 30/06/2020 11:49:32 PM

Is Europe completely fine? No. But that isn't your question. You're asking about in comparison to America, and most of Europe does better in multiple metrics. Legolas is right this is simply about better race-neutral social policy benefiting minorities in Europe, compared to in America, but the reverse is also true. America's shiftiness to it's poor redounds more strongly on it's minorities.

Australia is another place where there's plenty that is wrong, but there isn't such massive blindness about it. The Parliament actually issued a formal apology to the Indigenous Australian population for the child separation policy. While you can scoff at that as merely superficial, this kind of acceptance of guilt has profound downstream effects, not least being several of the Stolen Generation being able to fight for recompense in court, and several states offering up restitution funds.

The fact remains, America has never formally apologized for slavery. Correct me if I'm wrong, but no formal apology has ever passed both the House and Senate and signed into law. Never apologized for the Trail of Tears, though looking into it, an apology to Native Americans was apparently buried in a Defense Bill in 2010.

Later ills, like Him Crow, redlining, and the war on drugs have never been apologized for. Clinton apologized for the Crime Bill, but only when it was politically expedient.

Moving past reckoning and apology, it's also true that literally no other country in this planet incarcerated such a high proportion of it's minority population.

And while again, the case can be made that America's broad wealth inequality is worse than other advanced nations, that, too, falls more harshly on African Americans and Native people.

None of which is to say America is the worst about this. Absolutely not. But it's far from the best.

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Indians are being held up as a model minority. That's not helping the Black Lives Matter movement - 29/06/2020 06:59:25 PM 783 Views
As part of the "model" minority - 29/06/2020 08:18:17 PM 303 Views
How have you failed? - 29/06/2020 10:31:17 PM 295 Views
I still don't do enough. Silence and inaction are failure enough - 30/06/2020 03:29:29 AM 277 Views
I have to be honest, the privilege argument is dubious. - 30/06/2020 04:19:42 AM 311 Views
Re: I have to be honest, the privilege argument is dubious. - 30/06/2020 05:39:30 AM 434 Views
Here you go, you can also look up the raw census data - 30/06/2020 01:40:24 PM 275 Views
Some thoughts... - 30/06/2020 06:19:28 AM 287 Views
Re: Some thoughts... - 30/06/2020 02:08:10 PM 288 Views
I'm actually *very* curious of this myself.... - 30/06/2020 04:54:48 PM 279 Views
Maybe Canada. *NM* - 30/06/2020 06:57:01 PM 143 Views
Canada seems to have the same racial income gap issues as the US - 30/06/2020 07:29:21 PM 404 Views
Yeah I wouldn't write off Europe - 30/06/2020 11:49:32 PM 303 Views
here is an interesting article on mass incarceration in the USA. - 30/06/2020 02:30:09 PM 353 Views
Wow, good stuff, thanks for posting! *NM* - 30/06/2020 02:57:08 PM 150 Views
Interesting read indeed. - 30/06/2020 08:29:53 PM 295 Views
Not just a rich person - 30/06/2020 08:51:44 PM 259 Views
I have three anecdatas - 30/06/2020 09:23:10 PM 285 Views
Okay... this is just like old times, when I'd often have no idea what you were getting at. - 30/06/2020 09:49:03 PM 259 Views
Old timez - 30/06/2020 10:02:10 PM 270 Views
The Jury Trial - 30/06/2020 11:51:54 PM 263 Views
It’s easy to understand why. - 01/07/2020 12:09:44 AM 259 Views
There's more - 01/07/2020 12:55:57 AM 258 Views
I agree - 01/07/2020 02:04:50 AM 279 Views
Re: I agree - 01/07/2020 02:09:14 AM 259 Views
Guilt doesn't have much to do with it... - 01/07/2020 03:51:05 AM 258 Views
Yes, I’m sure that has a lot to do with it. - 01/07/2020 03:52:15 AM 260 Views
Oh god yes, I've heard of several instances of that - 01/07/2020 03:49:42 AM 263 Views
So you see that compassionate conservatives can exist? We aren’t mythical creatures? *NM* - 01/07/2020 03:55:45 AM 137 Views
I sincerely hope you aren't serious about this... - 01/07/2020 04:01:57 AM 268 Views
It was a little tongue in cheek - 01/07/2020 04:20:08 AM 277 Views
Re: It was a little tongue in cheek - 01/07/2020 06:23:20 AM 272 Views
a couple of points - 01/07/2020 07:42:32 PM 270 Views
What do you know about Biden's health that we don't know? *NM* - 01/07/2020 08:53:45 PM 153 Views
Re: a couple of points - 01/07/2020 10:05:08 PM 266 Views
Mook - Fionwe is a radical. You are not. - 01/07/2020 04:33:45 PM 274 Views
yes I suppose it was a foolish comment. - 01/07/2020 05:44:05 PM 263 Views
I'm honestly not sure if.you even meant it... - 01/07/2020 07:38:26 PM 251 Views
I kind of did when I wrote it, lame as it sounds now. - 01/07/2020 07:51:21 PM 244 Views
We've found plenty of common ground - 01/07/2020 10:06:19 PM 248 Views
Part of real common ground, real synchronization - 01/07/2020 11:43:49 PM 234 Views
It amuses me... - 01/07/2020 07:03:43 PM 271 Views
You're welcome. Come again. XOXO - 01/07/2020 07:05:11 PM 260 Views
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Sweetie, we can always zhuzz it up! First we need some more glitter. - 01/07/2020 07:39:42 PM 243 Views
Waterloo seems the most appropriate for the moment... - 01/07/2020 10:01:33 PM 246 Views
No, darling. We're playing Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight) - 02/07/2020 05:25:07 PM 235 Views
On drug based incarcerations... - 01/07/2020 12:01:40 AM 223 Views
"most on nonviolent drug charges" - 30/06/2020 09:25:09 PM 266 Views
This White/Non-White Binary choice is simplistic. And leaves no room for nuance. - 01/07/2020 03:46:17 PM 262 Views
Absolutely right, I read an interesting article on this a while ago. - 01/07/2020 10:58:59 PM 278 Views
You have a binary choice... - 02/07/2020 12:10:49 AM 233 Views
Found the article (or at least something similar). - 01/07/2020 11:04:53 PM 255 Views

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