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No, it is not by definition not logical. What definition of fear are you using? fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 08/10/2020 01:00:23 PM

Fear can be logical or illogical. It's case by case. There's no definitional illogic to fear.

Being afraid of a gun pointed at you by a guy looking to mug you isn't illogical is it?


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Can you tell me why we should be going through all of this for something with a death rate so low? Especially considering how infectious it is and there are probably many more people who had it, but never got tested, so they aren't a tallied "case".

The second part is why. The coronavirus is incredibly virulent, and has asymptomatic spread.

So if you do nothing and sit back, it will swiftly infect a significant amount of the population. At which point, even it's 0.5-1% mortality rate becomes a big number of actual dead people. For evidence, look to the 210k dead people in the United States, compared to the much smaller numbers, proportionally, in several other countries.


I would counter your thoughts to some people are terrified, because every time you turn on the news its fear propaganda and Trump Hate. To the very point when people were really hoping that he would die from it. You keep bringing this around to a political thing, where I do not see it as one. Let's remember on this very board, when Trump stopped traffic, it was called xenophobic. Do you also remember when it was said "No masks"...and then it was said "Yes masks"? Do you remember when articles were saying that other symptoms of Covid could be mouth sores and hair loss in men?

I remember Pelosi saying in China Town (San Francisco), that everything is fine and come on down....do you remember that?

I do not want to see this as a political football to be moved back and forth, but if you do, there is plenty of blame for the Dems too.

~Jeordam


No doubt there is blame for Dems. But I'm debating you on whether this is a real threat. And it is, no matter what the political party if the moron denying it might be.
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I think you're still part of a problem rather than working to be a part of the solution. The Shrike - 07/10/2020 05:05:27 PM 136 Views
This would have more force if you actually had a solution in mind... fionwe1987 - 07/10/2020 06:25:39 PM 160 Views
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Well they were still saying Biden was senile after that debate, so what can we expect? *NM* TyrReborn - 05/10/2020 07:37:35 PM 74 Views
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Why do you think that is? fionwe1987 - 07/10/2020 06:28:54 PM 155 Views
Fear is by its very definition, not logical Jeordam - 07/10/2020 07:37:54 PM 154 Views
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That's in spite of all the attempts to contain it. You're talking about not trying that anymore. Legolas - 07/10/2020 10:15:12 PM 176 Views
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It doesn't require any particularly stupid moves like that to get a bloodbath in nursing homes. Legolas - 07/10/2020 11:24:48 PM 166 Views
No, it is not by definition not logical. What definition of fear are you using? fionwe1987 - 08/10/2020 01:00:23 PM 151 Views
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