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Okay, I could have phrased that better. Legolas Send a noteboard - 04/12/2020 07:21:05 PM

View original postI didn't say it was harmless. I didn't even suggest it. I believe that would be you reading into what I said. I can honestly say that I didn't even think that in my mind when I typed that post. Instead, I said that it has a death rate of less than 1%. You communicated that some hospitals/ICU's are at high levels of occupancy. Ok...what's your point? Hospitals are full.

I wrote '... to suggest covid is that harmless.' Should have phrased that better and avoided the word 'harmless' which indeed you didn't use. What I meant was your comment on covid having a less than one percent death rate - which, as I explained in the rest of the post, is only true when you can ensure that all people who catch it can get the medical care they need. So far, that has been the case, but if the numbers get much higher, it won't be anymore. As some parts of northern Italy found out the hard way in the spring.
View original postCan you give me some data on the amount of people who contract Covid vs. the number of people admitted to hospitals for Covid? I would suspect that the data suggests far more people are not admitted. I know 5 people who actually contracted it. Of those 5, one was admitted. She is obese, diabetic, and has bad kidneys. She was there for 3 days...and could have gone home after 1 (doctors kept her "out of an abundance of caution" ).

Of course it's a minority that is admitted to the hospital. It's easy to find how many people are hospitalized for covid in the US right now (about 100 000 - see link for more detail and numbers per state), the difficulty is knowing how many people have covid right now. Considering the number of daily cases and the average duration I see reported, I guess something between 1 and 2 million, hence 5 to 10 percent?

But those 100k hospitalized patients are already taking up about 12 to 15 percent of total hospital capacity in the US - which of course also needs to cover all the things it normally covers. In the hardest hit states, it's approaching 25 percent of capacity. Those states are also reporting ICUs being at 90 percent or more of capacity (that's in total, not just covid patients). It should be pretty clear that there's not a lot of room anymore for those percentages to grow, before you have to start denying hospital beds to covid patients who need them, or you deny them to other patients who need them.

View original postOk, and so they have permament lung damage. So do smokers. We do not shut down the world for them either (and that causes cancer too).

Smokers can decide to stop smoking, though. People can't simply decide to not contract covid.
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