Right, because that was going to actually make any kind of difference.
fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 15/09/2021 01:06:38 AM
Were you in Neptune between 2016 and 2020? Otherwise I don't know what makes you imagine that the 25th Amendment would have been invoked for anything by the lickspittles and toadies in the Trump cabinet.
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Notice the first contact with China was at the end of October, before the election. Plenty of time.
Notice the first contact with China was at the end of October, before the election. Plenty of time.
Plenty of time? For what, exactly?
Plus the impeachment wasn't pursued because he was leaving office a week after the Articles were drawn up. An admittedly poor reason if Trump was guilty of leading an insurrection.
Uh huh. And this inspires confidence in you about the 25th Amendment being invoked successfully? I really want to know what chain of thought allows for <I>that</I> conclusion to be reached.
But about to end the world in a nuclear was is just a little different. If there was valid reason to believe it true, then both General Milley and Speaker Pelosi abdicated their responsibilities to this country by trying to backdoor a workaround. Suppose that failed? None of us would be here today.
And suppose they went public, and shock of shocks, the Cabinet dismissed Pelosi as a partisan back, and the General got fired.. this would have been a success how?
The fact is, talking with China was a more likely scenario for success than hoping for some kind of miracle with the 25th amendment. If fucking asking for election interference from a foreign nation on the White House phone isn't an impeachable offence, nor instigating an insurrection, you've gotta be truly disconnected from reality to imagine that there was any legal/Constitutional way to constrain Trump here.
Just curious. What do you think the reaction would be in India if Modi's top general, no doubt also a BJP member, was found to have communicated in a similar manner with Pakistan?
He'd probably find himself dead, or ostracized at the very least. He'd still be absolutely right, of course. Even more so, to be honest, because India and Pakistan have way worse command/control setups for their nukes.
Umm, isn't this treason?
- 14/09/2021 09:40:01 PM
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Lots of things are treason
- 14/09/2021 10:16:56 PM
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Sidenote how many books has Woodward done this in by now? It is Farcical in its own way. *NM*
- 14/09/2021 10:17:45 PM
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Lots of things might be treason
- 14/09/2021 10:42:11 PM
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I am not disagreeing, it is treachery and it would be treason if someone acted
- 14/09/2021 11:04:17 PM
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I also am not disagreeing.
- 14/09/2021 11:14:49 PM
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Dan FUCKING Quayle!
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I'm having shrimp with chili and lime sauce over rice.
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Most pastas are bad for me 
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Yes. And also, morally correct
- 14/09/2021 10:55:26 PM
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Morally correct would have been going public with invoking the 25th Amendment
- 14/09/2021 11:08:45 PM
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Right, because that was going to actually make any kind of difference.
- 15/09/2021 01:06:38 AM
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I disagree but acknowledge you have a valid opinion.
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Thank you for your valid opinion Ned Stark 
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I view that as a compliment.
- 15/09/2021 03:10:54 AM
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Blah Blah Blah Montesquieu in his spirits of laws that inspired Madison
- 15/09/2021 03:51:56 AM
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I dunno if we're disagreeing, so much as talking about different things
- 15/09/2021 03:09:03 PM
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I'd certainly think "countermanding the CiC and giving top secret intel" would count as treason.
- 15/09/2021 09:36:49 PM
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Who started the conversation seeing this as a civilizational struggle? *NM*
- 15/09/2021 09:52:25 PM
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"...only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid & Comfort"
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