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Re: Because of reconciliation, they are using a technical means to do that. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 28/09/2021 09:18:07 PM

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when he might personally profit from the continued use of coal. As if this was his primary reason for opposing the “infrastructure “ bill.

Ummm, he is the Senior Senator from West Virginia. Surprisingly, West Virginia is known primarily as a coal producing state. Is it even remotely possible the esteemed Senator is voting the way his constituents want him to vote? Like, you know, every other member of Congress?

As to his personal finances, how shocking and unusual that as a West Virginian, he might have invested in coal. Maybe even prior to seeking national office. He must be unique, amirite?


While I personally support the move away from coal, my job is not dependent upon its extraction like many of Senator Manchin's constituents are. Unless the US steps in to heavily subsidize cleaner energy options, then Manchin is also ensuring that the residents of his state have access to affordable energy.

For a true Green Revolution, the US needs to step the game up and build massive solar farms, huge offshore wind farms, redo the electrical grid and subsidize solar panels. It's all possible, but I don't see it in the current bills in play.


Beginning in 2023, the program would reward utilities that increase their share of clean energy by 4% per year with grants and punish utilities that fall short by imposing fees.

In sum if you build solar or wind you get subsidies, and if you do not, you pay more for electricity as a utility.


And those fees won't be passed onto consumers with higher prices? Given monopolistic practices, most consumers only have 1 choice for electricity/heat provider.

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