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And Hamas' recording The Shrike Send a noteboard - 20/10/2023 02:44:12 PM

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Though to be honest I'm not sure the IDF's word on it made much of a difference, given their equally obvious incentives to lie - it was the US weighing in, plus various independent sources analysing publicly available data more in depth, that swung opinion.

But the point was that news outlets in the West immediately took the word of the Gazans in accusing Israel. Now the narrative is that Israel has to show it didn't rather than the narrative starting with We Dont Know Who or How.

And of course this plays right into Hamas' propaganda aims since the Arab leaders with Biden were cancelled as a result.

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I find it interesting, but sadly not a bit surprising... damookster - 19/10/2023 05:24:33 PM 551 Views
Is that right? aerocontrols - 19/10/2023 05:43:12 PM 312 Views
Re: Is that right? damookster - 19/10/2023 06:02:40 PM 288 Views
That's certainly what I'm seeing here, yes. Legolas - 19/10/2023 06:15:05 PM 353 Views
And Hamas' recording The Shrike - 20/10/2023 02:44:12 PM 296 Views
I do not know about the Hospital Roland00 - 19/10/2023 06:15:55 PM 321 Views
Schools, mosques, refugee camps, and at least one hospital were hit with airstrikes prior to this. Vodalus - 19/10/2023 09:54:15 PM 312 Views
The WSJ is reporting Saint Porphyrius church, a famous orthodox church was blasted Roland00 - 19/10/2023 10:52:58 PM 289 Views
Congressman (fmr) Justin Amash lost family members in this Church bombing, link Roland00 - 21/10/2023 05:58:11 AM 277 Views
Hospitals have external oxygen tanks and the blast was in the parking lot. damookster - 19/10/2023 10:55:58 PM 292 Views
If all of that is true, and I’m not saying it isn’t, how are 500-plus 200-plus dead? Vodalus - 19/10/2023 11:11:11 PM 308 Views
The current US intelligence estimate is 100-300 dead leaning towards the lower figure. damookster - 19/10/2023 11:34:25 PM 274 Views
The Palestinians are pretty shameless in their propaganda. Dragonsoul - 20/10/2023 03:17:43 AM 324 Views
I wish Israel had bombed that hospital, and done so intentionally. AgentApple - 20/10/2023 01:46:49 PM 312 Views
I feel for you, my friend damookster - 20/10/2023 02:47:31 PM 310 Views
Ummm AgentApple - 20/10/2023 07:30:05 PM 315 Views
People believe what their taught anti-Semitism teaches them to believe. The Shrike - 20/10/2023 02:39:19 PM 308 Views
What is amazing is how opinions here have split by party affiliation. damookster - 20/10/2023 02:53:41 PM 297 Views
There is absolutely nothing amazing about it. Vodalus - 20/10/2023 03:17:27 PM 303 Views
I believe there's a little more to it than that. damookster - 20/10/2023 03:46:24 PM 319 Views
Sure, but does it even matter at this point? Vodalus - 20/10/2023 05:58:32 PM 371 Views
Never forget The Shrike - 20/10/2023 06:16:25 PM 291 Views
Go fuck yourself Roland00 - 20/10/2023 06:43:41 PM 289 Views
Piss off Roland damookster - 20/10/2023 07:25:18 PM 263 Views
I am cursing Greg for he is one man Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:35:01 PM 308 Views
Actually I know that Israel has a right to exist and its people have a right to the land. The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:38:31 PM 289 Views
greg you are putting words into my mouth Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:44:06 PM 296 Views
Seriously Mookie listen to yourself Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:39:27 PM 304 Views
Re: Seriously Mookie listen to yourself damookster - 20/10/2023 07:45:42 PM 334 Views
Found the anti-semite. The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:30:25 PM 292 Views
I was born failed Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:32:41 PM 286 Views
Sweetie darling, The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:39:42 PM 305 Views
you are the one who is keep on bringing dionysus and the world spirit into this. You are mad *NM* Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:44:55 PM 141 Views
You think you're unique? damookster - 20/10/2023 07:40:24 PM 288 Views
So people who are 14 in Gaza, where are they supposed to go? Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:45:41 PM 264 Views
Ask the surrounding Arab countries, for once. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 07:47:13 PM 131 Views
And who killed a former president of Egypt? It was before the 14 year olds birth Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:52:23 PM 292 Views
If you're referencing Sadat, he was killed by a fellow Egyptian damookster - 20/10/2023 08:12:35 PM 311 Views
Yes I am referencing Sadat Roland00 - 20/10/2023 08:51:35 PM 258 Views
Re: Never forget Vodalus - 20/10/2023 07:09:51 PM 312 Views
One thing to note The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:35:10 PM 287 Views
Sadly, Jordan doesn't want them, any more than Egypt. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 07:49:16 PM 139 Views
Re: One thing to note Vodalus - 20/10/2023 07:51:48 PM 325 Views
Or maybe its lies spread on campuses over the past 30 years The Shrike - 20/10/2023 05:24:11 PM 290 Views
Both, and more. Vodalus - 20/10/2023 06:00:49 PM 310 Views
People believe what fits best with the ongoing narrative. Legolas - 20/10/2023 03:51:31 PM 305 Views
The first assumption that the IDF and US are obviously lying is the issue. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 04:07:29 PM 149 Views
All plays in the wider geopolitical war going on here The Shrike - 20/10/2023 05:32:15 PM 281 Views
The larger pattern The Shrike - 20/10/2023 05:29:56 PM 313 Views
I agree 100% damookster - 20/10/2023 05:45:08 PM 289 Views
Nice to see the board alive again, even for just one day. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 08:18:27 PM 157 Views
The blood always pumps due to cursed things, that or drink - *NM* Roland00 - 20/10/2023 08:40:49 PM 129 Views
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