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Re: Never forget Vodalus Send a noteboard - 20/10/2023 07:09:51 PM

Egypt is to the south of the Gaza Strip. It too blockades it. It's a joint venture between Muslim Egypt and Jewish/Muslim Israel (Yes because despite rhetoric about apartheid, Israeli Arabs are equals in Israeli society. They have been members of the Knesset. They have bene a part of the governing coalition. Arab Israelis make up half the medical professionals in the country. They have room to advance and be equals). So the issue is not about collective punishment as much as it is about Hamas. Think about all the rockets sent against Israel. Think about the billions in aid given. If all that had not been spent on military weapons to destroy Israel, Gaza would be another Singapore now.

I see it as Egypt having been paid off. Without that money from America things might be different. But you’re right about it being a JV. As to the matter of apartheid, which I’ll define as civil law for one group and military law for another, I have a problem with what you’ve written about Israeli Arabs, or at least the completeness of what you’ve written. While the official population of Israel is close to 10 million people, Bibi effectively rules over close to 15 million. The official 10M break down to about 7.5M Jewish citizens and about 2.5M Arab citizens, mostly Palestinian Muslims. Not included are the roughly 5 million stateless Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem. As a stateless people, they are in no way equal, let alone equals in Israeli society. Nor can they be members of the Knesset. If you want limit this to the Palestinians/Israeli Arabs who hold Israeli citizenship, okay. But that’s completely ignoring the problems of the other 5M Palestinians.

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