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Re: Seriously? damookster Send a noteboard - 06/12/2024 11:33:59 PM

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View original postAnd to even suggest a lawyer provide concrete proof for information already specified as privileged is patently ridiculous. And insulting.

Assuming that Tom does indeed possess proof that the current president of the USA was personally bribed by foreign companies, you find it 'ridiculous' and 'insulting' to suggest that he should provide such proof to competent law enforcement because maybe some things are bigger than his attorney-client privilege? Is this because of your 'all politicians are corrupt so we should just let them get away with everything' theories again?



You really need to improve your reading comprehension. Let me break this down for you.

  1. I never said all politicians are so corrupt we should let them get away with everything. My point was and always has been that all politicians are corrupt so it’s naive and foolish to expect otherwise. Or claim any party is morally superior.

  2. My point about Tom is that it is ridiculous and insulting for you to state it’s impossible for you to believe him without his violating attorney client privilege and providing concrete proof. Like I replied to aerocontols, if we were debating aerospace technology and he replied, I know the answer but can’t supply it without violating security, I have no reason to doubt him. We all know that is his field and he has worked on projects that were classified. So, why should I doubt him?

Likewise with Tom. In over 20 years of interactions with him, it has become obvious he is a skilled lawyer who speaks fluent Russian and has traveled there frequently for his work. Comments he has made many times have led me to suspect he and his firm represented some involved and perhaps still do.So again, why would I doubt him? If he says he has specific knowledge that he can’t reveal because it’s privileged, I believe it. And think it’s insulting to him to imply he’s bullshitting.

And lastly, if Tom had a client who told him he bribed Joe Biden in a privileged conversation, my understanding is he is not allowed to call the FBI and report it.

Mook

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No Fucks Left to Give Joe tosses Hunter a blanket pardon damookster - 02/12/2024 09:23:33 PM 416 Views
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Re: I think if he hadn't said he wouldn't pardon his son, then this would be a non-issue. damookster - 03/12/2024 01:32:17 PM 138 Views
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Fully agree. *NM* Legolas - 04/12/2024 06:40:15 AM 57 Views
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In that case, yes, your solution is a good one. Ghavrel - 04/12/2024 03:58:32 PM 144 Views
Trump was already going to pardon all the J6 defendants, though. Ghavrel - 04/12/2024 07:18:56 AM 147 Views
Re: Trump was already going to pardon all the J6 defendants, though. damookster - 04/12/2024 02:07:41 PM 138 Views
Ugh, I hate this 'they're all the same' rhetoric. Legolas - 04/12/2024 09:22:38 PM 194 Views
I respectfully disagree. damookster - 04/12/2024 11:09:07 PM 127 Views
Seems like we're kind of talking past each other here. Legolas - 05/12/2024 11:39:02 PM 135 Views
Trump had quite a few successes in his first term The Shrike - 06/12/2024 02:45:32 PM 200 Views
You mean his administration and Congress had those successes. Legolas - 06/12/2024 10:12:25 PM 151 Views
No, I mean him. *NM* The Shrike - 07/12/2024 12:38:27 AM 126 Views
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The achievements of the administration are attributed to the President. The Shrike - 08/12/2024 10:50:43 AM 205 Views
Some people also think the earth is flat. Legolas - 08/12/2024 06:29:37 PM 183 Views
Le sigh The Shrike - 08/12/2024 09:03:01 PM 196 Views
Make up your mind already. Legolas - 08/12/2024 10:30:11 PM 183 Views
I listed his/the administration's achievements. What is there to debate? The Shrike - 08/12/2024 11:03:15 PM 207 Views
Debate tends to involve a back and forth, not just one side stating their views. Legolas - 09/12/2024 05:58:22 PM 193 Views
Re: You mean his administration and Congress had those successes. Vodalus - 09/12/2024 04:28:58 AM 158 Views
That, and way overpromise on what can actually be achieved by cracking down on China. Legolas - 09/12/2024 05:12:49 PM 207 Views
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Hm. It doesn't seem like we disagree that much on the 'true partnerships' then. Legolas - 10/12/2024 07:52:39 PM 186 Views
Re: Hm. It doesn't seem like we disagree that much on the 'true partnerships' then. Vodalus - 10/12/2024 10:46:13 PM 166 Views
I see what you're saying, but I think that approach only works in the short term Legolas - 10/12/2024 11:54:59 PM 198 Views
Re: I see what you're saying, but I think that approach only works in the short term Vodalus - 11/12/2024 04:11:09 AM 193 Views
I mostly agree, with one giant caveat Tom - 05/12/2024 02:56:02 PM 199 Views
Re: I mostly agree, with one giant caveat damookster - 05/12/2024 03:49:00 PM 129 Views
I take a bit of umbrage at that assignment personally Tom - 06/12/2024 12:37:40 AM 204 Views
We've been over this - some of this is true, some is, at a minimum, not proven that I ever saw. Legolas - 05/12/2024 11:18:24 PM 129 Views
I know it was factually true Tom - 06/12/2024 12:46:44 AM 212 Views
Sounds like you need to become a whistleblower and go talk to the FBI yourself, then? Legolas - 06/12/2024 11:37:00 AM 125 Views
Typically, whistle blower and attorney client privilege are not viewed as compatible. damookster - 06/12/2024 03:57:12 PM 125 Views
I have a clearance aerocontrols - 06/12/2024 05:01:07 PM 134 Views
Re: I have a clearance damookster - 06/12/2024 08:08:50 PM 136 Views
Secret evidence doesn't have to be believed aerocontrols - 07/12/2024 09:31:10 PM 136 Views
Re: Secret evidence doesn't have to be believed damookster - 08/12/2024 03:46:54 PM 124 Views
Seriously? Legolas - 06/12/2024 10:28:07 PM 208 Views
Re: Seriously? damookster - 06/12/2024 11:33:59 PM 199 Views
Did you even read that earlier post? Legolas - 07/12/2024 08:53:15 AM 192 Views
I can't believe I'm siding with Tom here Ghavrel - 07/12/2024 01:50:15 AM 151 Views
I guess you kinda have to with your profession. Legolas - 07/12/2024 07:46:01 PM 187 Views
Re: I guess you kinda have to with your profession. damookster - 07/12/2024 08:07:28 PM 132 Views
See my other reply above then. *NM* Legolas - 07/12/2024 09:43:37 PM 124 Views
You're CLEARLY a Harris plant Cannoli - 06/12/2024 01:07:07 AM 137 Views
Hah, you got me! Legolas - 06/12/2024 11:49:19 AM 129 Views
Re: Hah, you got me! Cannoli - 07/12/2024 04:52:06 AM 130 Views
It's true that both parties have contributed to the decline of political norms/courtesies, yes. Legolas - 07/12/2024 09:42:18 PM 188 Views
Re: It's true that both parties have contributed to the decline of political norms/courtesies, yes. Cannoli - 10/12/2024 11:18:52 AM 130 Views
I'd be hesitant to link Biden with the Democrats anymore Cannoli - 06/12/2024 01:24:44 AM 139 Views
Re: I'd be hesitant to link Biden with the Democrats anymore damookster - 06/12/2024 01:47:08 AM 207 Views
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