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Re: Well, it depends. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 23/04/2010 04:58:40 AM
Ponder these questions, for example:

If we're lynching him to find out if there are any vanillas, do you think any real vanillas would vote for Fox?

If Fox then turns out to be a protown vanilla, don't the DFs know that none of the vanillas voted for Fox (i.e., only non-vanillas voted him)?


Truly this was worrying me as well. Thankfully, we do not need to do this on someone whose sole lynchworthy characteristic is the claim to be a vanilla. Fox and Ravens was already considered a suspect before I brought my hypothesis to the table, so people who believe that Fox and Ravens is a Darkfriend have reason to vote for him anyway, even if they are vanilla. He is also among the number that participated in the lynch of Blaine, a Lightsider, yesterday, so that's also something useful to consider.

This is the great benefit of using Fox and Ravens as a test subject. He was already being considered for lynching, so reasoning behind the votes against him cannot be solely attributed to this line of inquiry.

Furthermore, if Fox and Ravens is, in fact, a Darkfriend, then his colleagues will all have to worry that we might all be roled, regardless of whether this is true or not.

If Fox turns out to be a DF, does that really mean there are no vanillas?

I think the logic is a bit backwards. I'm not saying Fox should/shouldn't be lynched, but I don't see the logic behind lynching him as an "experiment" to find out if there are vanillas.


No, obviously the only way we can determine for certain that there are no vanillas is to know the role of everybody in the game, and that won't happen until it is ended. I fail to see why I should hesitate to lynch Fox and Ravens because he might be a Darkfriend.

The logic behind lynching him to find out if we have vanillas in the game is simple. Lynching Fox and Ravens can only bring us two possible results: either he is a vanilla, or he is not.

If he is, we have an answer to my question.
If he is not, then we have lynched a Darkfriend (or a liar).

There are benefits to either result, though obviously the latter is preferable.
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Game 16, Day 2: In the Manor of Mad Muad (Ended) - 09/04/2010 06:59:52 PM 4907 Views
Official Vote Count - Fox and Ravens has been lynched - 09/04/2010 07:01:43 PM 1963 Views
Chair and Advocate Vote Record - 09/04/2010 07:02:19 PM 1701 Views
General Info from the Moderator: Update 14 - 09/04/2010 07:03:06 PM 1586 Views
Inactivity Tracker - VNTL: 7 - 09/04/2010 08:10:05 PM 1724 Views
Beetnemesis- Active *NM* - 09/04/2010 11:30:39 PM 1004 Views
White Flame- semiRBIRL *NM* - 10/04/2010 04:02:44 AM 994 Views
BlackAdder: Active! *NM* - 10/04/2010 04:04:36 AM 1013 Views
Fox and Ravens - active *NM* - 10/04/2010 04:21:54 AM 1004 Views
Bergioyn - Active *NM* - 10/04/2010 08:34:13 AM 1108 Views
Gher: Active *NM* - 10/04/2010 07:22:16 PM 1025 Views
Amys: Active but with limited computer access *NM* - 10/04/2010 08:35:04 PM 988 Views
Darth_Katie: Semi-RBIRL *NM* - 11/04/2010 03:36:00 AM 1049 Views
Re: Darth_Katie: RBIRL *NM* - 21/04/2010 05:31:42 AM 1065 Views
RBIRL for realsies. - 21/04/2010 05:34:51 AM 1477 Views
Wait... what? - 09/04/2010 11:36:10 PM 1522 Views
OK, I think I see. - 09/04/2010 11:40:28 PM 1464 Views
ta for simplifying, it all makes sence now *NM* - 09/04/2010 11:55:24 PM 995 Views
Re: OK, I think I see. - 10/04/2010 12:12:47 AM 1632 Views
Sounds good. With that said... - 10/04/2010 01:47:17 AM 1383 Views
Re: Sounds good. With that said... - 10/04/2010 09:58:41 AM 1582 Views
Good point - 10/04/2010 11:52:13 AM 1500 Views
Hm. So, FT- did you do anything to inform us that you were the cop? - 10/04/2010 01:52:23 AM 1487 Views
He's not supposed to talk about this previous role - 10/04/2010 01:56:41 AM 1517 Views
Whoops. I meant *NOW* the Andoran Merchant - 10/04/2010 04:15:37 AM 1507 Views
I am the wealthy Andoran merchant. - 10/04/2010 04:34:57 AM 1566 Views
Wow... - 10/04/2010 01:54:05 AM 1643 Views
Re: Wow... - 10/04/2010 03:03:21 AM 1543 Views
Well I can't speak for BlackAdder... - 10/04/2010 07:37:15 AM 1457 Views
Re: Well I can't speak for BlackAdder... - 10/04/2010 09:28:02 PM 1555 Views
Re: Wow... - 10/04/2010 03:03:21 AM 1396 Views
EBWOP - sorry double post *NM* - 10/04/2010 03:03:48 AM 994 Views
Why were those two killed? - 10/04/2010 03:12:49 AM 1435 Views
It's pretty obvious why Hobo was killed after Blaine was found to be a Mason. - 10/04/2010 03:51:17 AM 1582 Views
Re: It's pretty obvious why Hobo was killed after Blaine was found to be a Mason. - 10/04/2010 04:20:37 AM 1416 Views
Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability - 10/04/2010 04:29:34 AM 1401 Views
Re: Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability - 10/04/2010 05:15:45 AM 1519 Views
Re: Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability - 10/04/2010 05:23:51 AM 1488 Views
Re: Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability - 10/04/2010 05:27:49 AM 1591 Views
Re: Well, he was revealed to be a Whitecloak, with a tacked-on ability - 10/04/2010 05:44:59 AM 1493 Views
Careful, that's been Beetnemesis' strategy the past few games. Doesn't work so well *NM* - 10/04/2010 07:14:55 PM 947 Views
Bah! *NM* - 10/04/2010 11:23:05 PM 993 Views
Explain? *NM* - 11/04/2010 01:01:59 AM 1016 Views
He got the entire town against him by digging himself a deeper and deeper hole. - 11/04/2010 01:40:46 AM 1469 Views
He'd still be a Mason even if he could talk at night - 10/04/2010 04:40:32 AM 1443 Views
"... even if he COULDN'T talk at night" that is. - 10/04/2010 04:41:12 AM 1536 Views
Two main venues of inquiry: - 10/04/2010 05:12:46 AM 1584 Views
Re: Two main venues of inquiry: - 10/04/2010 05:25:43 AM 1456 Views
I'm curious if he is really worth keeping around - 10/04/2010 05:34:50 AM 1488 Views
I certainly oppose a roleclaim at this point... - 10/04/2010 05:42:55 AM 1449 Views
Yes, but - 10/04/2010 05:56:32 AM 1445 Views
Meh, I'd expect him to tell us if we were wrong... - 10/04/2010 06:09:13 AM 1470 Views
Only if he were pro-Light. - 10/04/2010 06:23:01 AM 1358 Views
Actually, screw this. - 10/04/2010 06:32:30 AM 1503 Views
Flavor in Hobo's death scene. - 10/04/2010 08:13:03 AM 1495 Views
first off - 10/04/2010 11:25:23 AM 1373 Views
Re: first off - 10/04/2010 11:59:27 AM 1429 Views
one possiblity - 10/04/2010 03:36:06 PM 1343 Views
The Janitor role prevents us from finding out the victims role and affiliation though. - 10/04/2010 07:20:16 PM 1475 Views
hmmmn - 10/04/2010 10:29:14 PM 1436 Views
Let's try to find out reasons why the body was hidden - 11/04/2010 06:53:23 PM 1442 Views
It was probably balefire - 11/04/2010 07:08:55 PM 1380 Views
It could be important. - 12/04/2010 01:56:12 AM 1262 Views
People know balefire - 10/04/2010 05:49:19 PM 1534 Views
Also, twilight and dawn scenes - 10/04/2010 08:27:55 AM 1563 Views
You got twilight AND dawn? Fancy. - 10/04/2010 06:01:44 PM 1447 Views
I'm guessing it had to do with me being the hammer vote on Blaine. - 11/04/2010 12:44:09 AM 1441 Views
I think we should hypocop, in any case - 10/04/2010 08:14:52 PM 1497 Views
IF YOU ARE NOT THE COP: - 10/04/2010 08:29:50 PM 1442 Views
I really think this is completely unnecessary. - 10/04/2010 09:20:46 PM 1538 Views
Hrm... - 10/04/2010 11:08:44 PM 1547 Views
Re: Hrm... - 11/04/2010 01:53:18 AM 1469 Views
FT doesn't know the results of the investigation- the deputy may - 10/04/2010 11:30:26 PM 1398 Views
Re: FT doesn't know the results of the investigation- the deputy may - 11/04/2010 01:44:01 AM 1632 Views
Fair enough. Those can be misleading, anyway - 11/04/2010 01:48:55 AM 1408 Views
How could this possibly do us harm? - 11/04/2010 05:18:55 PM 1392 Views
All I'm saying is the possibilty is there. *NM* - 11/04/2010 06:56:20 PM 914 Views
Where? *NM* - 12/04/2010 04:13:05 PM 949 Views
If somebody takes the investigation as truth when it's not *NM* - 12/04/2010 04:32:25 PM 848 Views
Hypocop table- Night One [Table] - 10/04/2010 08:19:21 PM 1511 Views
I found Bergioyn to be Innocent *NM* - 10/04/2010 08:20:02 PM 920 Views
I found beetnemesis to be innocent. *NM* - 10/04/2010 08:30:16 PM 978 Views
I found Talic to be innocent. *NM* - 10/04/2010 08:34:07 PM 965 Views
I found Talic to be guilty *NM* - 10/04/2010 08:53:45 PM 1041 Views
I found Amys to be innocent. *NM* - 10/04/2010 09:03:51 PM 950 Views
There's really no reason for me to be on that list, you know. - 10/04/2010 09:55:41 PM 1374 Views
i found Artsapat to be guilty *NM* - 10/04/2010 10:33:21 PM 1018 Views
I found Talic to be innocent. *NM* - 10/04/2010 11:10:19 PM 918 Views
I found Amys to be innocent *NM* - 11/04/2010 01:56:14 AM 949 Views
I found Artsapat innocent. *NM* - 11/04/2010 04:03:51 AM 979 Views
I found Napoleon62 to be guilty *NM* - 11/04/2010 07:04:13 PM 964 Views
Isaac: quick clarification. - 11/04/2010 07:15:58 PM 1411 Views
Yes *NM* - 11/04/2010 07:25:46 PM 908 Views
Is he a man or woman? - 12/04/2010 01:24:37 AM 1444 Views
I found Talic to be for the Light *NM* - 11/04/2010 09:44:20 PM 933 Views
I found Fox to be guilty *NM* - 12/04/2010 12:50:51 AM 925 Views
I found White Flame innocent *NM* - 14/04/2010 05:30:49 AM 885 Views
Chair Vote: ranagrande - 10/04/2010 11:14:56 PM 1400 Views
Re: Chair Vote: ranagrande - 10/04/2010 11:31:07 PM 1375 Views
I think it's because no one really has a feel for the roles, yet Advocate Vote: beetnemesis - 10/04/2010 11:38:56 PM 1474 Views
I need someone else to vote against you with. - 11/04/2010 12:54:56 AM 1304 Views
Anything specific? - 11/04/2010 01:47:48 AM 1425 Views
If only because the role is mostly useless - 11/04/2010 01:08:19 AM 1457 Views
Where are all the people who used the "it's Day 1" excuse to not talk yesterday? - 11/04/2010 12:52:27 AM 1478 Views
Re: Where are all the people who used the "it's Day 1" excuse to not talk yesterday? - 11/04/2010 01:59:01 AM 1298 Views
Psst: Bergoiyn's a dude. *NM* - 11/04/2010 04:11:38 AM 1003 Views
My bad *NM* - 11/04/2010 06:31:22 PM 966 Views
Was this just a mix up, or didn't you know? *NM* - 11/04/2010 08:45:11 PM 874 Views
I think it was just a mixup. Not really sure what I was thinking. *NM* - 11/04/2010 09:47:51 PM 959 Views
ahhh noobs - 11/04/2010 02:14:26 AM 1397 Views
Of course, but it hardly takes much time to read/post. *NM* - 11/04/2010 06:12:32 AM 1505 Views
Re: ahhh noobs - 12/04/2010 02:51:33 PM 1365 Views
Re: ahhh noobs - 12/04/2010 04:54:26 PM 1414 Views
Re: ahhh noobs - 12/04/2010 05:56:22 PM 1556 Views
Do you want to explain what I did to make you so suspicious? - 11/04/2010 04:09:51 AM 1398 Views
I didn't use "Day 1 excuse". I've been sick, and really haven't got the energy to do anything. - 11/04/2010 10:16:10 AM 1389 Views
That's fine - 11/04/2010 11:19:46 AM 1463 Views
Hmm. - 11/04/2010 12:53:43 AM 1530 Views
Hm? - 11/04/2010 12:56:20 AM 1386 Views
Ah, yes. - 11/04/2010 02:37:24 AM 1655 Views
It's legal - 11/04/2010 03:00:56 AM 1385 Views
Is that a vote, or just a suggestion? *NM* - 11/04/2010 01:03:31 AM 970 Views
Well, he phrased it as a vote, so it's a vote - 11/04/2010 01:51:27 AM 1459 Views
<b>Chair Vote: Gher</b> *NM* - 12/04/2010 02:01:09 AM 911 Views
EBWOP - 12/04/2010 02:03:05 AM 1475 Views
Just so you know, I would have taken that - 12/04/2010 02:17:59 AM 1470 Views
Player analysis - 11/04/2010 07:09:58 AM 1446 Views
fistofpainx - 11/04/2010 07:13:17 AM 1469 Views
So, any suspicions? - 11/04/2010 03:15:53 PM 1422 Views
Here's my take on Talic: - 11/04/2010 07:13:58 PM 1391 Views
Let's rip out mine - 11/04/2010 07:18:38 PM 1400 Views
Yesterday you said you trusted White Flame - 11/04/2010 07:31:20 PM 1447 Views
Re: Yesterday you said you trusted White Flame - 11/04/2010 08:29:13 PM 1545 Views
That's actually quite good point. *NM* - 11/04/2010 08:41:26 PM 932 Views
Well, from what I can gather... - 11/04/2010 08:49:14 PM 1502 Views
Oddly enough, I said something similar yesterday - 12/04/2010 08:00:17 AM 1420 Views
As I mentioned above, I'm suspicious of Fox - 11/04/2010 10:54:48 PM 1453 Views
Re: As I mentioned above, I'm suspicious of Fox - 11/04/2010 11:08:26 PM 1484 Views
You may think your actions are justified - 11/04/2010 11:44:47 PM 1391 Views
I dunno - 11/04/2010 11:37:44 PM 1458 Views
Advocate Vote: beetnemesis | Chair Vote: Gher *NM* - 11/04/2010 05:26:39 PM 825 Views
Advocate Vote: beetnemesis | Chair Vote: Gher - 11/04/2010 07:24:55 PM 1921 Views
I approve of everyone giving me power - 11/04/2010 07:32:35 PM 1424 Views
Best thing to go off of now, I suppose. - 11/04/2010 09:50:08 PM 1520 Views
I still don't want beet having power. But Chair Vote: Gher is acceptable. *NM* - 11/04/2010 11:26:46 PM 980 Views
Maybe I wasn't paying attention ... - 12/04/2010 01:32:51 AM 1341 Views
Sheer animal magnetism - 12/04/2010 08:21:14 AM 1443 Views
Obviously, of course. - 12/04/2010 12:24:47 PM 1527 Views
In that case - 12/04/2010 02:08:47 PM 1302 Views
What Beet said - 12/04/2010 04:11:26 PM 1475 Views
Okay, thanks. *NM* - 13/04/2010 12:20:57 AM 942 Views
Finally here - 11/04/2010 09:52:46 PM 1434 Views
110 new posts later.... - 12/04/2010 12:49:51 AM 1508 Views
Re: 110 new posts later.... - 12/04/2010 01:49:46 AM 1476 Views
This last bit is honestly the part that might convince me - 12/04/2010 08:17:55 AM 1564 Views
Oh! And the hypocopping thing! I don't know what was up with that. - 12/04/2010 08:20:22 AM 1478 Views
That's the one that bugs me the most. - 12/04/2010 04:06:31 PM 1452 Views
Wait, are you suspicious of Fox or not? - 13/04/2010 12:35:07 AM 1505 Views
Yes, I am. - 13/04/2010 01:41:00 AM 1519 Views
Re: Yes, I am. - 13/04/2010 05:29:27 AM 1425 Views
A quick argument for why there's likely still some type of cop - 13/04/2010 08:01:24 AM 1330 Views
Re: A quick argument for why there's likely still some type of cop - 13/04/2010 09:39:31 AM 1420 Views
I disagree with the "F-T hid it" theory. - 13/04/2010 09:53:46 AM 1372 Views
That would be hilarious though. - 13/04/2010 09:59:06 AM 1424 Views
It would be - 13/04/2010 04:11:41 PM 1409 Views
My point was, storywise, we wouldn't KNOW if the darkfriends were killed - 14/04/2010 04:12:49 AM 1454 Views
Yeah, but storywise... - 14/04/2010 05:27:05 AM 1449 Views
Yeah, that bugs me too - 14/04/2010 07:00:08 AM 1341 Views
Need to correct you on your terminology. - 14/04/2010 12:35:34 PM 1348 Views
Hm... Point *NM* - 14/04/2010 04:51:13 PM 972 Views
We can agree on all of your points, but it only argues in favor of Fox's reasoning. *NM* - 13/04/2010 09:48:39 AM 960 Views
That's because my reasoning makes sense. - 13/04/2010 08:36:13 PM 1300 Views
I think you've been acting weird, if not neccessarily Dark - 14/04/2010 01:57:41 AM 1446 Views
Here's my thoughts on the cop situation - 13/04/2010 08:42:24 PM 1498 Views
Re: Yes, I am. - 13/04/2010 07:35:54 AM 1325 Views
Here's the deal with hypocopping: - 13/04/2010 07:54:36 AM 1500 Views
What do events have to do with it? - 13/04/2010 10:01:28 AM 1510 Views
Because "Events" obviously don't conform to standard rules - 14/04/2010 01:55:22 AM 1376 Views
Hypocopping isn't foolproof. - 13/04/2010 10:08:32 PM 1380 Views
Re: Oh! And the hypocopping thing! I don't know what was up with that. - 12/04/2010 04:08:10 PM 1342 Views
Yeah but so what? - 12/04/2010 04:16:00 PM 1277 Views
Re: Yeah but so what? - 12/04/2010 04:23:28 PM 1323 Views
Re: 110 new posts later.... - 12/04/2010 06:51:14 AM 1382 Views
Re: 110 new posts later.... - 12/04/2010 07:58:08 PM 1399 Views
Ok. *NM* - 12/04/2010 09:58:56 PM 850 Views
So, any other avenues of investigation that we need to attack? - 13/04/2010 03:37:39 PM 1527 Views
Sorry, haven't been able to get up the other posts - 13/04/2010 05:49:30 PM 1383 Views
Yearp - 14/04/2010 06:12:08 AM 1449 Views
I think that's pretty fair. - 14/04/2010 12:27:55 PM 1557 Views
Fine with me. *NM* - 14/04/2010 03:36:41 PM 932 Views
Re: Yearp - 14/04/2010 04:48:58 PM 1390 Views
Okay I need 2 Random numbers between 1-15 please - got 3 and 13, thanks - 13/04/2010 06:45:43 PM 1341 Views
3 *NM* - 13/04/2010 07:35:56 PM 959 Views
13 *NM* - 13/04/2010 07:39:10 PM 928 Views
Event: Lunch Interlude - 13/04/2010 10:00:19 PM 1527 Views
You see that? Black and Red. - 13/04/2010 11:12:07 PM 1230 Views
Taimens? *NM* - 13/04/2010 11:26:01 PM 889 Views
Taim + Ravens. *NM* - 14/04/2010 01:20:15 AM 886 Views
LOL. Nice try. *NM* - 14/04/2010 01:55:33 AM 947 Views
I was going to point that out yesterday - 14/04/2010 12:16:46 AM 1634 Views
lots of people like black and red tho - 14/04/2010 12:44:38 AM 1449 Views
I know. I didn't mean it as true evidence. - 14/04/2010 03:41:06 PM 1410 Views
So... there's that - 13/04/2010 11:39:23 PM 1353 Views
prolly a puzzle peice - 14/04/2010 12:12:08 AM 1471 Views
Piece of the puzzle, I'd say. - 14/04/2010 12:54:11 AM 1367 Views
Re: So... there's that - 14/04/2010 01:57:17 AM 1433 Views
do the numbers match up with the player list? - 14/04/2010 02:30:03 AM 1447 Views
Re: do the numbers match up with the player list? - 14/04/2010 02:48:33 AM 1419 Views
No, I actually discuss methodology in the Update section *NM* - 14/04/2010 02:54:37 AM 887 Views
Origin Chart (Table) - 14/04/2010 05:05:14 PM 1409 Views
Idea. - 14/04/2010 05:32:10 PM 1383 Views
...I did, didn't I? - 14/04/2010 11:22:09 PM 1453 Views
I was thinking note something like fist's - 15/04/2010 01:36:36 AM 1371 Views
So... does anyone have any bursts of insight? - 15/04/2010 04:21:20 AM 1436 Views
Yes, I think I've figured out who the Darkfriends are *NM* - 15/04/2010 05:10:06 AM 910 Views
You think? - 15/04/2010 06:04:58 AM 1377 Views
Care to share? *NM* - 15/04/2010 05:21:39 PM 907 Views
Yes, vote fistofpainx. He's a DF. *NM* - 15/04/2010 07:04:36 AM 918 Views
Actually, I'm starting to agree with this. - 15/04/2010 07:38:43 AM 1511 Views
Personally... - 15/04/2010 08:32:15 PM 1374 Views
Yeah fist is (and has been) very quiet. Hey! Wake up! - 15/04/2010 11:24:29 PM 1341 Views
Re: Yeah fist is (and has been) very quiet. Hey! Wake up! - 16/04/2010 02:15:50 AM 1428 Views
And what about YOU? - 16/04/2010 04:09:55 AM 1419 Views
Re: Yeah fist is (and has been) very quiet. Hey! Wake up! - 16/04/2010 04:31:36 AM 1342 Views
Two votes is considered enough of a direct question? *NM* - 16/04/2010 08:00:16 AM 900 Views
Good idea, Pal! *NM* - 15/04/2010 02:52:46 PM 979 Views
*Prods Players* - 16/04/2010 08:23:01 AM 1364 Views
*wakes up* - 16/04/2010 11:33:16 AM 1575 Views
We were voting - 16/04/2010 12:03:02 PM 1460 Views
if it gets the game moving, fine. Vote: fistofpainx - 16/04/2010 06:11:57 PM 1590 Views
This is where I'd vote for fistofpainx... - 16/04/2010 06:47:57 PM 1447 Views
I, however , am not thus bound. Vote: fistofpainx - 16/04/2010 11:21:14 PM 1359 Views
Nah, he doesn't need to roleclaim yet - 17/04/2010 12:20:12 AM 1494 Views
oh and btw - 17/04/2010 12:24:37 AM 1425 Views
Not right away, no. - 17/04/2010 01:04:43 AM 1406 Views
He's already got a lot of votes against him. - 17/04/2010 06:21:42 PM 1541 Views
I Agree. - 18/04/2010 08:56:59 AM 1447 Views
Personal activity for next two weeks - 17/04/2010 10:06:07 AM 1385 Views
We'll see if we can manage that *NM* - 17/04/2010 06:53:30 PM 885 Views
Finally back - 17/04/2010 07:40:35 PM 1468 Views
That sucks, sorry - 17/04/2010 07:42:40 PM 1274 Views
Re: Finally back - 17/04/2010 09:53:08 PM 1403 Views
Er... - 18/04/2010 01:56:29 AM 1338 Views
meh I don't have any feelings *NM* - 18/04/2010 02:25:03 AM 848 Views
A sure sign of a Darkfriend. *NM* - 18/04/2010 02:49:30 AM 870 Views
EBWOP: *NM* - 18/04/2010 02:50:02 AM 850 Views
I agree - 18/04/2010 03:29:30 AM 1371 Views
Talic was suspicious because he was cagey about his origin - 18/04/2010 08:28:34 AM 1383 Views
No, not really... - 18/04/2010 06:23:42 PM 1328 Views
I don't find that suspicious at all - 18/04/2010 07:11:01 PM 1391 Views
You make a lot of assumptions. - 18/04/2010 09:00:11 PM 1404 Views
Re: You make a lot of assumptions. - 18/04/2010 09:44:22 PM 1431 Views
But which assumption is more likely? - 19/04/2010 12:55:28 AM 1445 Views
I think they're both pretty likely, actually... - 19/04/2010 01:36:49 AM 1284 Views
Exactly, which means Talic is supicious. - 19/04/2010 02:41:43 AM 1477 Views
Speaking of assumptions, why are you assuming they didn't? - 19/04/2010 03:34:36 AM 1426 Views
I never did. - 19/04/2010 03:45:27 AM 1470 Views
they're all fairly reasonable ones though - 18/04/2010 11:08:22 PM 1502 Views
Why not? - 19/04/2010 12:52:43 AM 1535 Views
I'd be willing to bet we have a Doc. - 19/04/2010 08:32:21 PM 1261 Views
But the assumptions are all (or mostly) completely rational. *NM* - 19/04/2010 02:12:28 AM 868 Views
Really? Why? - 19/04/2010 02:42:52 AM 1483 Views
Talic is definitely supicious. - 18/04/2010 06:01:23 AM 1399 Views
Fox is the only one I'm really suspicious of so far - 18/04/2010 07:31:09 AM 1328 Views
It's like...backwards from last game. *NM* - 18/04/2010 07:23:37 PM 915 Views
It is! *NM* - 18/04/2010 07:27:29 PM 826 Views
OK, so here are my (new) candidates) - 18/04/2010 08:48:22 AM 1547 Views
I do have an opinion on one of those - 18/04/2010 12:37:34 PM 1355 Views
Atleast you have some ideas. - 18/04/2010 03:24:14 PM 1532 Views
Re: OK, so here are my (new) candidates) - 18/04/2010 06:48:10 PM 1412 Views
Re: OK, so here are my (new) candidates) - 18/04/2010 07:29:07 PM 1397 Views
At this point, it's almost painfully obvious that fistofpainx is a DF. *NM* - 18/04/2010 08:10:06 PM 861 Views
Can you elaborate on why? - 18/04/2010 10:09:27 PM 1365 Views
Oh? - 19/04/2010 01:28:23 AM 1439 Views
That's a pretty bold claim. - 19/04/2010 08:35:28 PM 1410 Views
Oh, btw, even though Isaac hasn't updated yet, you're still voting for fistofpainx *NM* - 18/04/2010 08:12:25 PM 936 Views
Eh. Didn't feel like unvoting. *NM* - 19/04/2010 01:26:50 AM 933 Views
These three are not very suspicous to me - 19/04/2010 05:44:28 AM 1357 Views
I don't know who to kill Today. - 19/04/2010 05:14:19 PM 1474 Views
F-T makes good points about Talic. - 19/04/2010 09:38:38 PM 1510 Views
we are gonna have to do something guys - 19/04/2010 10:24:30 PM 1396 Views
Someone bring me solid evidence about fist. I suggest BlackAdder for this - 20/04/2010 12:19:12 AM 1436 Views
here's some evidence - 20/04/2010 12:49:29 AM 1494 Views
Re: here's some evidence - 20/04/2010 04:54:54 AM 1527 Views
Maybe - 20/04/2010 07:15:01 AM 1671 Views
Re: Maybe - 20/04/2010 03:25:16 PM 1421 Views
Re: Maybe - 20/04/2010 03:43:21 PM 1407 Views
Eh, FT's thing was that Talic didn't get NK'd - 20/04/2010 01:50:50 AM 1372 Views
Why would you want him to roleclaim? - 20/04/2010 03:34:46 AM 1371 Views
Re: Why would you want him to roleclaim? - 20/04/2010 04:45:46 AM 1253 Views
I'd rather not trust that he'll screw up a roleclaim. - 20/04/2010 04:59:54 AM 1486 Views
Re: Eh, FT's thing was that Talic didn't get NK'd - 20/04/2010 04:54:04 AM 1362 Views
Er, I was saying that the chances WEREN'T equal - 20/04/2010 05:22:23 PM 1392 Views
Day 2 Deadline Extension: Friday 2 PM EST - 20/04/2010 02:45:25 AM 1482 Views
Whoa. - 20/04/2010 03:42:07 PM 1489 Views
I'll wait for him to post his reasons. *NM* - 20/04/2010 04:22:20 PM 858 Views
I've waited. - 20/04/2010 05:09:40 PM 1476 Views
You vote me for 2 days of inactivity? lolwut. *NM* - 20/04/2010 05:39:54 PM 790 Views
I have to agree with Kronin here - 20/04/2010 04:31:24 PM 1565 Views
same here - 20/04/2010 05:21:23 PM 1423 Views
Slightly ironic. *NM* - 20/04/2010 05:38:39 PM 945 Views
Yeah, I've been RBIRL and informed everyone of it. Reading is tech. - 20/04/2010 05:36:11 PM 1333 Views
Re: Yeah, I've been RBIRL and informed everyone of it. Reading is tech. - 20/04/2010 06:02:45 PM 1412 Views
Dude, rly? - 20/04/2010 06:07:44 PM 1370 Views
btw, what is the case against me anyway? That I have a case against fist? *NM* - 20/04/2010 06:11:01 PM 940 Views
An unsupported case against fist. - 20/04/2010 06:20:21 PM 1388 Views
...? - 20/04/2010 06:24:19 PM 1523 Views
Re: ...? - 20/04/2010 08:37:07 PM 1399 Views
I don't see what your points are. - 20/04/2010 06:12:49 PM 1413 Views
Re: I don't see what your points are. - 20/04/2010 06:22:19 PM 1467 Views
First off, stop with the eye rolls. - 20/04/2010 06:27:48 PM 1245 Views
I can't help it - 20/04/2010 06:33:05 PM 1483 Views
Re: I can't help it - 20/04/2010 06:46:25 PM 1401 Views
meh, your case against fist just seems really weak - 21/04/2010 01:03:17 AM 1285 Views
Re: meh, your case against fist just seems really weak - 21/04/2010 03:29:08 AM 1373 Views
I just didn't agree with the conclusion you drew.... - 21/04/2010 04:07:34 AM 1520 Views
just because someone has a non-vanilla role - 20/04/2010 06:53:39 PM 1554 Views
Re: just because someone has a non-vanilla role - 20/04/2010 07:11:59 PM 1421 Views
Re: just because someone has a non-vanilla role - 20/04/2010 07:23:21 PM 1406 Views
Re: just because someone has a non-vanilla role - 20/04/2010 07:27:48 PM 1501 Views
I'm not voting for Blackadder Today. - 20/04/2010 08:34:21 PM 1407 Views
Re: I'm not voting for Blackadder Today. - 20/04/2010 08:44:25 PM 1428 Views
I wasn't jumping to lynch him, I was just putting pressure. - 20/04/2010 09:51:17 PM 1403 Views
Yeah, I thought that was interesting too. - 21/04/2010 12:46:01 AM 1464 Views
Bandwagon votes - 21/04/2010 12:41:33 PM 1462 Views
Post counts - 21/04/2010 01:30:07 PM 1293 Views
Really, now. Yuna, ranagrande, Amys, fist, White Flame, and Talic: The MOD has more posts than you. *NM* - 21/04/2010 01:33:57 PM 874 Views
Isaac does love the sound of his own voice *NM* - 21/04/2010 02:28:58 PM 819 Views
'tis true - 21/04/2010 02:53:51 PM 1528 Views
Cosequences? - 21/04/2010 06:27:29 PM 1472 Views
Well, Yuna's spoken up... - 21/04/2010 06:29:51 PM 1434 Views
Re: Well, Yuna's spoken up... - 21/04/2010 07:58:24 PM 1308 Views
Re: Bandwagon votes - 22/04/2010 12:29:28 AM 1489 Views
Re: Bandwagon votes - 22/04/2010 12:48:23 AM 1534 Views
Personally I think it's weird that people are jumping on blackadder - 21/04/2010 12:23:06 AM 1614 Views
Re: Personally I think it's weird that people are jumping on blackadder - 21/04/2010 03:34:46 AM 1501 Views
Vote Table: 21 Apr, Wednesday 11:46 PM EST - 21/04/2010 01:58:55 AM 1446 Views
Hey, Talic, Yuna, and Artsapat! - 21/04/2010 01:14:54 PM 1419 Views
Re: Hey, Talic, Yuna, and Artsapat! - 21/04/2010 01:35:13 PM 1510 Views
Yea, I saw right after I posted this. Still doesn't exclude the other two! - 21/04/2010 01:39:07 PM 1466 Views
mrrr - 21/04/2010 01:44:01 PM 1473 Views
That seems awfully familiar to my reasoning. - 21/04/2010 01:46:29 PM 1414 Views
bleh - 21/04/2010 02:00:08 PM 1474 Views
It's not that you agreed with someone. - 21/04/2010 02:01:25 PM 1387 Views
Re: It's not that you agreed with someone. - 21/04/2010 02:15:44 PM 1625 Views
I agree. *NM* - 21/04/2010 02:24:11 PM 883 Views
All right, lets do this. Vote: Fox and Ravens - 21/04/2010 05:37:05 PM 1538 Views
Has anything happened in the last few days to increase your suspicion? - 21/04/2010 06:27:43 PM 1368 Views
The deadline? - 21/04/2010 06:57:52 PM 1377 Views
Re: The deadline? - 21/04/2010 07:22:19 PM 1418 Views
Yeah, sorry man. - 21/04/2010 09:08:46 PM 1418 Views
OK...so here are my thoughts up to this point... - 22/04/2010 01:24:02 AM 1458 Views
I'm disinclined to go along with this. - 22/04/2010 02:16:28 AM 1358 Views
Somehow, I disagree with both of you - 22/04/2010 02:56:45 AM 1388 Views
The problem is.... - 22/04/2010 03:30:12 AM 1405 Views
To Kronin, ranagrande, and Darth Katie - 22/04/2010 03:22:26 PM 1368 Views
He doesn't quite "go with the most popular option". - 22/04/2010 09:10:59 PM 1367 Views
more the posting rate - 23/04/2010 02:50:25 AM 1416 Views
Hmm. That reminds me of something. - 22/04/2010 02:43:35 AM 1344 Views
Oh, and I forgot to add... - 22/04/2010 02:45:37 AM 1544 Views
So what you're saying is that there's no way I could be vanilla? - 22/04/2010 03:06:31 AM 1364 Views
Don't be absurd. - 22/04/2010 04:14:36 AM 1408 Views
For SCIENCE! *NM* - 22/04/2010 04:24:39 AM 831 Views
That's a terrible reason. - 22/04/2010 02:35:53 PM 1445 Views
Btw, Isaac, I voted for fist in my long post *NM* - 22/04/2010 02:59:38 PM 787 Views
Buried it a bit there, got it now *NM* - 22/04/2010 03:41:07 PM 961 Views
Another question - 22/04/2010 03:46:16 PM 1566 Views
The deadline was adjusted last night - it is now Friday - 22/04/2010 03:58:12 PM 1493 Views
OK, thanks *NM* - 22/04/2010 04:02:05 PM 1353 Views
So you really don't have any abilities, restrictions, or anything? - 22/04/2010 03:35:39 PM 1319 Views
So you agree with F-T, then? - 22/04/2010 03:44:24 PM 1382 Views
Got nothing...sorry. *NM* - 22/04/2010 05:07:07 PM 802 Views
Well, it's not really an awful reason - 22/04/2010 04:25:49 PM 1401 Views
Meh, I don't have any particular suspicions about anybody. - 22/04/2010 06:11:06 PM 1306 Views
Re: Hmm. That reminds me of something. - 22/04/2010 03:28:37 PM 1493 Views
If Fox is lying about his roleclaim, that's only more reason to lynch him. - 22/04/2010 06:18:41 PM 1349 Views
Also, if the whole town has powers - 22/04/2010 03:37:26 PM 1574 Views
No, we shouldn't - 22/04/2010 03:48:30 PM 1451 Views
Re: No, we shouldn't - 22/04/2010 04:00:33 PM 1470 Views
What is it you want to hear from me? - 22/04/2010 06:17:39 PM 1414 Views
Re: What is it you want to hear from me? - 22/04/2010 09:04:22 PM 1366 Views
Well, it depends. - 22/04/2010 10:56:39 PM 1395 Views
Re: Well, it depends. - 22/04/2010 11:21:47 PM 1449 Views
This isn't the only reason - 23/04/2010 02:59:35 AM 1387 Views
Re: Well, it depends. - 23/04/2010 04:58:40 AM 1479 Views
Re: No, we shouldn't - 22/04/2010 06:42:52 PM 1444 Views
See my reply to ranagrande below *NM* - 22/04/2010 09:02:06 PM 908 Views
and how will coordination help? - 22/04/2010 08:23:27 PM 1322 Views
P.S. could you also answer my question above to you, Kronin and Darth Katie? - 22/04/2010 09:05:47 PM 1440 Views
Both, I'd say. - 23/04/2010 05:25:38 AM 1290 Views
I'm pretty sure you can't change your vote, being Chair and all. *NM* - 21/04/2010 10:20:14 PM 896 Views
It's not explicitly stated, but - 22/04/2010 12:39:39 AM 1370 Views
Ya, I think you're right. Gher has a doublevote, but I have a one-time defense. - 22/04/2010 01:49:29 AM 1434 Views
I must've been mistaken. - 22/04/2010 02:29:19 AM 1367 Views
He can move his and the chair vote anywhere, just like normal - 22/04/2010 04:36:21 AM 1306 Views
So, Fox: What's up with this? - 22/04/2010 05:07:21 PM 1408 Views
Re: So, Fox: What's up with this? - 22/04/2010 07:24:46 PM 1521 Views
Clarify please. - 23/04/2010 05:18:20 AM 1485 Views
Re: Clarify please. - 23/04/2010 07:17:07 AM 1461 Views
Note from Moderator: Deadline Approaches, Current Vote Table - 23/04/2010 12:30:22 PM 1491 Views
So what will it take to get you abstainees into a vote today? - 23/04/2010 03:49:56 PM 1445 Views
Looks like fox is what everyone wants - 23/04/2010 04:02:56 PM 1432 Views
So Fox is at L-1 - 23/04/2010 04:39:25 PM 1414 Views
Re: So Fox is at L-1 - 23/04/2010 04:42:13 PM 1467 Views
Man, I don't like this at all. - 23/04/2010 05:27:58 PM 1445 Views
Fox and Ravens has been Lynched *NM* - 23/04/2010 05:56:19 PM 878 Views
Wait, isn't that 6 votes, not 7? *NM* - 23/04/2010 06:25:58 PM 773 Views
Well, in any case, I will Vote: Fox and Ravens - 23/04/2010 06:28:59 PM 1392 Views
I don't see how I could have been in your twilight message... - 23/04/2010 06:50:46 PM 1333 Views
Damn! - 23/04/2010 06:49:28 PM 1522 Views
Pardon my french please *NM* - 23/04/2010 07:01:31 PM 815 Views
Science triumphs again ! *NM* - 23/04/2010 07:25:36 PM 977 Views
Re: Damn! - 23/04/2010 08:11:58 PM 1479 Views
Day 2 Twilight – Fox and Ravens Lynched - 23/04/2010 06:46:43 PM 1406 Views
Hah! - 23/04/2010 07:12:38 PM 1553 Views
Whoa. . . - 24/04/2010 01:49:09 AM 1396 Views
And I shouldn't trust mine. I seriously thought Fox was innocent. *NM* - 24/04/2010 06:53:46 AM 852 Views
And I never trust my instincts, I trust Science! - 24/04/2010 08:47:16 AM 1364 Views
As well you should! - 24/04/2010 12:56:25 PM 1375 Views
*pokes the ghost* - 25/04/2010 01:16:28 AM 1377 Views
Re: *pokes the ghost* - 25/04/2010 01:24:13 AM 1463 Views
Re: *pokes the ghost* - 25/04/2010 05:55:39 AM 1341 Views
Wow, you were serious. - 25/04/2010 02:11:43 AM 1401 Views
Yes. Yes I am. - 25/04/2010 05:53:20 AM 1425 Views
Cheers! *NM* - 25/04/2010 03:12:32 AM 815 Views
Re: *pokes the ghost* - 25/04/2010 03:27:56 AM 1269 Views
Yay! - 25/04/2010 05:51:00 AM 1362 Views
Happy Birthday! *NM* - 25/04/2010 05:25:49 PM 792 Views
Happy Birthday!! Party hard! *NM* - 25/04/2010 07:37:49 AM 813 Views
Happy birthday!! *NM* - 25/04/2010 05:13:52 PM 777 Views
Happy birthday *NM* - 25/04/2010 07:06:56 PM 733 Views

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