Considering we all had the same poem, I'd say it's very likely that all vanillas have the same role message. That means that all vanilla townies would have the same value to your question.
Were such the case, they'd be the only ones to know that, and with them all using different letters and values, they could confirm it very easily, by the way I'm not claiming or disclaiming to be vanilla myself, were I vanilla I'd have been able to check it quite easily of any one or two people, were I not I could prod someone to 'look closer' so to speak. Though the truth is, I had something else foremost on my mind, which I may speak of later or post game.
So if we had four 6s, three -2s, a 5 and a 4, that pretty obviously telegraphs 4 townies, three mafia, a doc and a cop.
Unless I'm somehow misreading this?
If the vanilla were able to self-identify each other like that, I could really care less if they en masse lynched anyone not vanilla, but they'd hardly need it to come to that since everyone has already RC'd in code, and odds are the fakes will stick out like a sore thumb. Odds are our scum either fake claimed as vanilla or faked claimed roles, and while the roleless PM's could give a cop or doc claim mid to late game a very high chance of success, I doubt they will, especially since I roared so loudly about doing a blitz beforehand. No, they'll have gone for vanilla or picked less common roles, had we been able to proceed with this technique and the vanilla had identical RM's they'd just have to pick out the people who couldn't prove RM equivalence who were vanilla and apply some common sense and attrition to the roled claimants. FT presumably stepped on this so quick either on general principle or because there are a lot of players with identical RMs, I'd bet the latter.
(I realize it's moot, but I still like discussing Mafia strategies, so...)
Being scum a lot during a series of games tends to do that to you, I pretty much have always thought in mafia mode, handy but it carries its own troubles
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King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
Game 24, Day 2 - Game has ended
- 06/11/2011 06:04:27 PM
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I'm actually a bit surprised by the choice of ?
- 06/11/2011 07:34:57 PM
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I think a second look at our poetry is in order too, now we have more of it
- 07/11/2011 12:43:21 AM
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Re: I think a second look at our poetry is in order too, now we have more of it
- 07/11/2011 12:57:32 AM
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... and the two things
- 07/11/2011 01:29:31 AM
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UM UM UM ALERT ALERT ALERT
- 07/11/2011 02:59:27 PM
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Re: UM UM UM ALERT ALERT ALERT
- 07/11/2011 06:23:42 PM
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Re: UM UM UM ALERT ALERT ALERT
- 07/11/2011 08:17:53 PM
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Wait, would everyone be picking their own two letters? Ah, ok, it's not as dangerous as I thought
- 07/11/2011 08:20:32 PM
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and follow that to the logical conclusion...
- 07/11/2011 08:40:43 PM
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no *NM*
- 07/11/2011 06:19:20 PM
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FT already banned it *NM*
- 07/11/2011 06:20:45 PM
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Vote: ?
- 07/11/2011 02:33:43 PM
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He could have just been being polite
- 07/11/2011 06:34:30 PM
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Very good point, I think a roleclaim from ?, using Kronin's coded roleclaim from yesterday
- 07/11/2011 08:22:45 PM
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? can't decode Kronin's RC, and he wouldn't be allowed to give his own
- 07/11/2011 08:45:50 PM
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yeah I could go ahead and roleclaim if you want...
- 07/11/2011 08:56:41 PM
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No, I don't want you to claim
- 07/11/2011 08:57:47 PM
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Wait what's the difference?
- 07/11/2011 09:06:06 PM
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is this gonna turn into that game where i got lynched thrice in one game but for ? instead?
- 07/11/2011 10:24:15 PM
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Anybody else get a chuckle out of this? *NM*
- 07/11/2011 06:36:28 PM
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out of what? *NM*
- 07/11/2011 07:51:06 PM
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you have to go into the messege like i said ignore the *NM* prompt *NM*
- 07/11/2011 08:54:22 PM
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Shrug, I think we should still get a roleclaim from ?/Kronin
- 08/11/2011 01:51:24 PM
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I coded a claim above...in response to Isaac I think...
- 08/11/2011 08:46:07 PM
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Vote: Beetnemesis
- 09/11/2011 10:24:06 PM
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Bah, now I have to claim as well
- 09/11/2011 10:46:37 PM
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decoding:
- 09/11/2011 11:22:31 PM
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Would you mind walking through that last step?
- 09/11/2011 11:44:30 PM
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Hmm...You mention me a lot in that post...Was that me as ? or me as Kronin? I'm a tad confused.
- 09/11/2011 11:28:55 PM
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Is or Is Not a Cop (Table)
- 10/11/2011 12:52:52 AM
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I'm the daycop. Vote: Ranagrande.
- 10/11/2011 01:41:59 AM
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EBWOP: here's the code.
- 10/11/2011 01:43:00 AM
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EBWOP again
- 10/11/2011 01:44:04 AM
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Stand by for the moment
- 10/11/2011 01:49:38 AM
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Jesus...I REALLY need to read everything before I start posting.
- 10/11/2011 01:54:11 AM
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Add to that the next follow up, that ? might previously have been a Day Cop too
- 10/11/2011 02:04:29 AM
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I am a daycop. I found Isaac innocent. *NM*
- 10/11/2011 02:02:05 PM
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We still need you role decode *NM*
- 10/11/2011 06:19:53 PM
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i am a cop
- 10/11/2011 07:00:14 PM
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Ah, I was wondering how come there was suddenly thirty new posts in this thread.
- 10/11/2011 03:02:10 AM
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Hahaha I have to read all of these posts, but FT, you're insane.
- 10/11/2011 01:58:01 PM
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I think it's time to consider mass RC
- 10/11/2011 08:15:36 PM
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Sure...
- 10/11/2011 09:19:49 PM
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There's a lot of options still, and decode confirmed by the way
- 10/11/2011 09:48:05 PM
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The wasy I see it, anybody not claiming cop is going to get lynched
- 10/11/2011 11:57:24 PM
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Lying and claiming cop when you can't decode your RC will get you lynched faster. *NM*
- 11/11/2011 12:33:05 AM
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Fox, did you get a response on your investigation? *NM*
- 11/11/2011 12:20:12 AM
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I hadn't performed one yet.
- 11/11/2011 12:34:48 AM
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I'll investigate ? because yuna's the other daycop
- 11/11/2011 04:00:49 AM
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Wait a minute....I meant that I would be testing it against rana. Not yuna
- 11/11/2011 01:39:16 PM
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It kinda seems like Hieshyn and ? are our logical lynch targets, plus Cop (Table)
- 11/11/2011 10:09:52 PM
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Vote: ?
- 11/11/2011 10:46:43 PM
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I'm down with voting for ?, as long as everyone is clear on what our night actions should be
- 12/11/2011 04:49:53 AM
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Game ends.
- 14/11/2011 10:25:04 PM
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Role list:
- 14/11/2011 10:26:32 PM
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Jeeez.
- 14/11/2011 11:43:47 PM
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Kronin originally RC as a Tracker so we might have done better if we had been able to continue *NM*
- 15/11/2011 12:06:07 AM
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Also I would like to be added to the list of future Moderator
- 15/11/2011 12:07:51 AM
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You'd have first dibs via our order of precedence system
- 15/11/2011 02:05:04 AM
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Also whoever Mods should probably post a recruitment thread on some other NBs
- 15/11/2011 02:50:02 AM
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I expect my next game to draw in some new players.
- 15/11/2011 02:58:59 AM
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More is better, okay that would be Hieshyn or Beet then, unless ? wants to toss in
- 15/11/2011 03:26:25 AM
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I don't have anything prepared, so if Hieshyn wants it, I'll be happy to go after him
- 15/11/2011 03:28:40 AM
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I'm not ready to go next
- 15/11/2011 02:43:07 PM
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Aight, I think it's me then.
- 15/11/2011 03:15:21 PM
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ooooh
- 15/11/2011 11:27:26 PM
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Before the next game starts, we probably need to discuss RC coding
- 15/11/2011 02:15:27 AM
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Yeah, I really didn't like that idea.
- 15/11/2011 02:58:21 AM
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An informal agreement is probably the way to go then
- 15/11/2011 03:08:17 AM
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Although really, it's the same as if in IRL everyone just wrote down their role on a piece of paper
- 15/11/2011 03:28:00 AM
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Yeah, I don't think it warrants being banned (hence why I didn't), but I don't like it. *NM*
- 15/11/2011 03:37:59 AM
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*NM*
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