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Quickly going over those you provided... Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 24/08/2012 07:33:01 AM
So 1 exmaple, up to Game 17 - CRossover Game 2 (Katie's was #1) by Rana... yeah... just gonna link the role message summary form that one. I'm calling that 1-1 though, even excluding the cult making character judgement irrelevant I don't think "Captain Morgan, Rum Guy" is too indicative of scum nor Inspector Javert a default good guy but he was town... and that was the one where we had to kill Yuna like three times.


That was notably the one where Shai'tan was a good guy, and yes, I'm definitely giving you this one, this definitely counts for your total.

Our third named character game is #19... Beet's game, already discussed that one, scum had ironclad named character hero claims, SKrull or not is irrelavant to context... so 2-1


It is not. For starters, the scum were explicitly villains, Iron Man, Spider-Man and the Thing were not scum, villains impersonating them were scum.

More importantly, we were informed of the nature of the enemy as shapeshifters from the outset so we would know that just because someone claims to be a hero, without counter-claim, does not mean they actually are that hero.

So I must dismiss your example here.

#20, Yuna, named characters, anime so I cna't really discuss, ask her though, but I think it qualifies too, still call it neutral for now, 2-1-1


I'm not familiar with most of the characters in the game, but I do recall calling out Death Note's Light Yagami as evil (and scum) from the first faint scent of him, and being correct. Most of the others are recognise seem to fit expectations. (Serial Killer Rei was not obvious to me, but it Neon Genesis Evangelion, so who knows.)

#22 - Kronin, the Greek mythology game... yeah, no brainer on that one, Korinin had Plato and Socrates as scum and townie and cited his reason as "By the way, the reason Socrates was evil, while Plato was not is just that, honestly, I don't like Socrates. He's kind of a dick."


Granted.

#23... Dresden Files... well that is a given


Actually, I have to disagree with you, because as in the Marvel Comics one, you explained your methodology for assigning roles from the outset, and therefore we knew not to expect alignment to necessarily coincide with roles. And I bring this up because my understanding was that you knew from the start that your setup would violate expectations. Again, this reinforces the notion that we should be able to trust the alignment of characters from the lore.

Game #24 - Yours, you tell me on that I don't recall that being named though


That was the game where I made everyone a cop or cop-related role? Yeah, that had nothing to do with setting.

#25 - Rana, Mistborn - Not named character sin that either, except as modificaitons of ourselves, feel obliged to point out we were the nobles in mistborn as townies, very definitely not good=town there.


Except that, again, the setup made this clear from the beginning. In fact, the delineation is very clear and concurrent with expectations, it was simply reversed.

#26 - Jon's first mod, MacBeth, IIRC the bad guys were the sons of the king... nominally considered good guys in the tale.


Granted.

Still, you make a better point than I'd expected. I did remember Yunalesca's townie Shai'tan, but thought it an exception, given how surprised I was at that particular revelation. Obviously I was not surprised in the Mafia game, being one of those scum, so that might have influenced my perception.

Somehow, I can barely recall Kronin's greek game. Weird.
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See above isn't acceptable? - 15/08/2012 10:17:36 PM 1427 Views
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...bloody-mindedness? - 16/08/2012 01:29:40 AM 1421 Views
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Ranagrande got the serial killer on Day 1 last game, that kill is all his - 16/08/2012 05:06:13 AM 1464 Views
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I did forget about rana's awesome code-breaking, that's on me - 16/08/2012 04:14:35 PM 1360 Views
Yet the demonstration of a flaw in your hunch-record doens't result in an unvote? *NM* - 17/08/2012 11:28:33 PM 1032 Views
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RBIRL again. Sorry. - 16/08/2012 06:06:52 PM 1350 Views
What college does he go to? *NM* - 16/08/2012 06:14:36 PM 734 Views
Cornell *NM* - 19/08/2012 10:31:44 PM 781 Views
how is he? - 16/08/2012 09:43:49 PM 1338 Views
He's doing very well for himself! *NM* - 19/08/2012 10:32:14 PM 812 Views
If posting doesn't become significantly more active by monday evening, I will institute a time limit - 18/08/2012 08:45:35 PM 1412 Views
What are we tracking as the current vote count anyway? - 19/08/2012 03:44:28 AM 1468 Views
Re: What are we tracking as the current vote count anyway? - 19/08/2012 11:17:48 AM 1333 Views
I unvoted from Yunalesca a while back. - 19/08/2012 05:09:30 PM 1477 Views
I can't believe you missed that in the first post. - 19/08/2012 11:45:42 AM 1420 Views
I usually ride in on an email link *NM* - 19/08/2012 04:00:25 PM 820 Views
eh, i'll vote where my mouth is. Vote: Fanatic-Templar *NM* - 19/08/2012 10:49:35 PM 802 Views
Well, I gues that's SOMETHING - 20/08/2012 10:51:36 AM 1499 Views
Then I'll join the vote against Beetnemesis. - 20/08/2012 05:00:16 PM 1439 Views
I think you should reconsider - 21/08/2012 05:18:30 AM 1439 Views
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Well, there isn't much of a case against anyone, this is Day 1 after all. - 21/08/2012 06:47:18 AM 1461 Views
By the way, that was well put - 21/08/2012 09:24:50 PM 1538 Views
Re: Well, I gues that's SOMETHING - 20/08/2012 05:21:21 PM 1491 Views
What was the argument against FT, again? - 20/08/2012 04:07:26 PM 1363 Views
I wanted to lynch Yunalesca for inactivity, and this was unkind. *NM* - 20/08/2012 05:01:18 PM 815 Views
That wasn't the case in its entire... - 20/08/2012 05:22:26 PM 1417 Views
Obviously you are a demon *NM* - 21/08/2012 05:14:12 AM 873 Views
That goes without saying. But we're supposed to lynch mafia, not demons. *NM* - 21/08/2012 06:25:31 AM 815 Views
I have returned! - 22/08/2012 01:35:32 AM 1318 Views
Roleclaim: Fantasio, (Spirou's best friend) - 22/08/2012 05:32:16 PM 1467 Views
Re: Roleclaim: Fantasio, (Spirou's best friend) - 22/08/2012 06:17:04 PM 1456 Views
You are a modern day Atticus Finch *NM* - 22/08/2012 08:21:28 PM 843 Views
So true *NM* - 22/08/2012 10:37:23 PM 808 Views
Unvote - 22/08/2012 11:16:02 PM 1475 Views
See, I've got a slight problem with that - 23/08/2012 07:52:11 AM 1481 Views
Hm I have no such sentence... - 23/08/2012 12:36:58 PM 1468 Views
I don't either but I can somewhat confirm that, also Beet lied, clearly and totally - 23/08/2012 05:18:41 PM 1491 Views
This is all true... *NM* - 23/08/2012 06:13:55 PM 878 Views
Good characters being good is far more reasonable than the opposite. - 24/08/2012 04:23:16 AM 1472 Views
6/7 or 5/7 games with named characters it was a horrible gauge - 24/08/2012 05:20:23 AM 1595 Views
I still say those previous games are irrelevant. Here's why: - 24/08/2012 05:32:55 AM 1483 Views
I can't agree here Dan - 24/08/2012 05:51:53 AM 1623 Views
(it's nothing personal) - 24/08/2012 03:29:00 PM 1443 Views
Quickly going over those you provided... - 24/08/2012 07:33:01 AM 1406 Views
my anime game - 25/08/2012 02:21:57 PM 1486 Views
What? - 23/08/2012 03:43:24 PM 1474 Views
And that's pretty unbelievable too - 23/08/2012 07:07:35 PM 1369 Views
This whole answer sounds to me... - 23/08/2012 07:17:34 PM 1343 Views
So, you think I am an evil version of Fantasio? *NM* - 24/08/2012 12:31:14 AM 841 Views
I have NEVER claimed "secret intel," and I haven't claimed a role, either - 24/08/2012 12:30:08 AM 1493 Views
How curious. - 23/08/2012 04:35:48 PM 1448 Views
Okay. - 23/08/2012 06:13:37 PM 1408 Views
Re: Okay. - 24/08/2012 04:23:18 AM 1416 Views
I'm as certain as I can be, given the circumstances. - 23/08/2012 07:14:33 PM 1448 Views
Vote: beetnemesis *NM* - 23/08/2012 08:10:38 PM 825 Views
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o...k, i have food poisoning and come back to this? - 24/08/2012 12:58:49 AM 1355 Views
Because I character claimed as Fantasio, which means I am evil Fantasio - 24/08/2012 01:03:06 AM 1601 Views
Interesting way of putting it... - 24/08/2012 03:02:39 AM 1443 Views
Re: Interesting way of putting it... - 24/08/2012 05:45:59 AM 1586 Views
Re: Interesting way of putting it... - 24/08/2012 06:03:02 AM 1400 Views
Re: Interesting way of putting it... - 24/08/2012 07:07:29 AM 1472 Views
Re: Interesting way of putting it... - 24/08/2012 07:38:22 AM 1485 Views
Re: Interesting way of putting it... - 24/08/2012 08:14:39 AM 1518 Views
Oh yeah he should be dead shouldn't he? *NM* - 24/08/2012 11:31:59 AM 906 Views
Probably post-hammer so... - 24/08/2012 05:58:04 AM 1706 Views
No problem with that. *NM* - 24/08/2012 01:02:56 PM 858 Views
Wait so what exactly do you want us to do? - 24/08/2012 09:19:12 PM 1562 Views
Any reasonable compact account - 24/08/2012 10:39:31 PM 1425 Views
...Well memory really isn't my thing... *NM* - 25/08/2012 03:51:10 AM 852 Views
My memory is awful, besides you write well - 25/08/2012 04:12:02 AM 1433 Views
Hmm trying to flatter me into doing the work eh? *NM* - 25/08/2012 07:05:08 PM 775 Views
If it works *NM* - 25/08/2012 07:48:12 PM 836 Views
...It might. - 25/08/2012 09:27:59 PM 1548 Views
Augh! I got nothing... - 26/08/2012 02:43:37 AM 1458 Views
What about your first game or your first Mod? - 27/08/2012 01:32:47 AM 1422 Views
I only remember the basis of my first game... - 27/08/2012 01:50:48 AM 1416 Views
That'll do Now who to guilt trip? *NM* - 27/08/2012 02:29:16 AM 801 Views
I totally remember that. Napoleon, right? You guys kept accidentally posting as one another. *NM* - 25/08/2012 12:31:05 AM 785 Views
Haha yeah that's him... - 25/08/2012 03:50:38 AM 1461 Views
I do... That was annoying. *NM* - 25/08/2012 08:49:45 AM 760 Views
Sorry. *NM* - 25/08/2012 07:06:07 PM 833 Views
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