So 1 exmaple, up to Game 17 - CRossover Game 2 (Katie's was #1) by Rana... yeah... just gonna link the role message summary form that one. I'm calling that 1-1 though, even excluding the cult making character judgement irrelevant I don't think "Captain Morgan, Rum Guy" is too indicative of scum nor Inspector Javert a default good guy but he was town... and that was the one where we had to kill Yuna like three times.
That was notably the one where Shai'tan was a good guy, and yes, I'm definitely giving you this one, this definitely counts for your total.
Our third named character game is #19... Beet's game, already discussed that one, scum had ironclad named character hero claims, SKrull or not is irrelavant to context... so 2-1
It is not. For starters, the scum were explicitly villains, Iron Man, Spider-Man and the Thing were not scum, villains impersonating them were scum.
More importantly, we were informed of the nature of the enemy as shapeshifters from the outset so we would know that just because someone claims to be a hero, without counter-claim, does not mean they actually are that hero.
So I must dismiss your example here.
#20, Yuna, named characters, anime so I cna't really discuss, ask her though, but I think it qualifies too, still call it neutral for now, 2-1-1
I'm not familiar with most of the characters in the game, but I do recall calling out Death Note's Light Yagami as evil (and scum) from the first faint scent of him, and being correct. Most of the others are recognise seem to fit expectations. (Serial Killer Rei was not obvious to me, but it Neon Genesis Evangelion, so who knows.)
#22 - Kronin, the Greek mythology game... yeah, no brainer on that one, Korinin had Plato and Socrates as scum and townie and cited his reason as "By the way, the reason Socrates was evil, while Plato was not is just that, honestly, I don't like Socrates. He's kind of a dick."
Granted.
#23... Dresden Files... well that is a given
Actually, I have to disagree with you, because as in the Marvel Comics one, you explained your methodology for assigning roles from the outset, and therefore we knew not to expect alignment to necessarily coincide with roles. And I bring this up because my understanding was that you knew from the start that your setup would violate expectations. Again, this reinforces the notion that we should be able to trust the alignment of characters from the lore.
Game #24 - Yours, you tell me on that I don't recall that being named though
That was the game where I made everyone a cop or cop-related role? Yeah, that had nothing to do with setting.
#25 - Rana, Mistborn - Not named character sin that either, except as modificaitons of ourselves, feel obliged to point out we were the nobles in mistborn as townies, very definitely not good=town there.
Except that, again, the setup made this clear from the beginning. In fact, the delineation is very clear and concurrent with expectations, it was simply reversed.
#26 - Jon's first mod, MacBeth, IIRC the bad guys were the sons of the king... nominally considered good guys in the tale.
Granted.
Still, you make a better point than I'd expected. I did remember Yunalesca's townie Shai'tan, but thought it an exception, given how surprised I was at that particular revelation. Obviously I was not surprised in the Mafia game, being one of those scum, so that might have influenced my perception.
Somehow, I can barely recall Kronin's greek game. Weird.
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Chaos in Champignac - Day 1
23/07/2012 10:15:29 PM
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Spirou and Fantasio? *NM*
23/07/2012 11:02:28 PM
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How'd you figure? *NM*
25/07/2012 01:53:18 PM
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Champignac stuck in my mind probably, then I googled it
25/07/2012 02:33:41 PM
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I wouldn't have recognized Champignac at all
25/07/2012 03:59:29 PM
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You probably don't have friends who pronounce Champagne 'Cham pag Knee'
25/07/2012 04:22:09 PM
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I haven't read these comics since I was in elementary school. *NM*
24/07/2012 02:15:09 AM
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Can't say I've ever even heard of them... *NM*
24/07/2012 05:45:12 PM
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They're French comics.
24/07/2012 10:01:34 PM
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Belgian, thank you very much.
25/07/2012 07:09:49 PM
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Speak of the devil
25/07/2012 08:36:15 PM
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What, you didn't know about that function?
25/07/2012 09:33:35 PM
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Re: What, you didn't know about that function?
25/07/2012 10:09:31 PM
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All the more reason for me to request it, then.
25/07/2012 11:28:49 PM
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Re: All the more reason for me to request it, then.
26/07/2012 12:03:18 AM
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Hm, I don't remember that. But it's possible.
26/07/2012 08:22:53 PM
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I shall endeavour to keep that in mind.
26/07/2012 03:15:32 AM
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And you wonder why the rest of Canada finds you so arrogant?
26/07/2012 08:32:16 PM
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I was not aware that the rest of Canada was capable of greater specificity
.
27/07/2012 07:19:16 AM
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Neat. Well, I know next to nothing about Tintin
25/07/2012 04:14:26 AM
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Some background to Spirou and Fantasio
25/07/2012 09:00:05 AM
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Ah, OK, I assumed it was Tintin from other comments. Thanks. *NM*
25/07/2012 03:13:14 PM
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Hi, I know very little about the setting as well. Also, RBIRL until Monday. *NM*
25/07/2012 08:27:53 PM
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ok, so thoughts?
26/07/2012 10:21:03 AM
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Stare at each other suspiciously, until we suddenly turn on someone with the first hint of weakness? *NM*
26/07/2012 03:36:15 PM
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Although that does sound tempting, I'm sure there are other options
26/07/2012 07:32:39 PM
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Re: Although that does sound tempting, I'm sure there are other options
29/07/2012 03:47:04 PM
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*poke, poke, poke*
28/07/2012 12:14:41 PM
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Re: *poke, poke, poke*
29/07/2012 09:17:04 PM
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Indeed. Beware the wrath of the moderator!
29/07/2012 10:58:55 PM
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Ah yes, apologies about that
.
30/07/2012 02:41:26 AM
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Any reason why? *NM*
30/07/2012 03:28:48 AM
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He hasn't posted in a week.
30/07/2012 07:13:39 AM
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What? No discussion of the alternatives either Isaac or me proposed?
30/07/2012 08:48:20 AM
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I think as small as we are I might prefer lynch over modkill, since a modkill will LyLo us
30/07/2012 05:01:06 PM
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Gee, since everybody else is quiet
31/07/2012 10:31:21 AM
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Re: Gee, since everybody else is quiet
01/08/2012 02:44:17 AM
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Interesting indeed.
01/08/2012 02:01:43 PM
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Meh. Combination of First Day Ennui and me not knowing the setting/characters
02/08/2012 07:41:22 PM
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I don't see the point of this.
02/08/2012 11:43:56 AM
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Re: Gee, since everybody else is quiet
04/08/2012 09:53:26 AM
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Oh, and Yuna, you can go next *NM*
04/08/2012 09:55:04 AM
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Unvote and Vote: Yunalesca
08/08/2012 08:23:52 AM
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RBIRL *NM*
02/08/2012 03:52:27 AM
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Still RBIRL
05/08/2012 11:57:19 PM
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Your thoughts expressed, you feel the chill recede. If only others followed the example, you think. *NM*
06/08/2012 01:00:07 AM
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You all feel a chill and think you need to express your thoughts lest something terrible happens. *NM*
05/08/2012 11:03:25 PM
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OK- Beet gets in the game
07/08/2012 03:32:43 AM
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I'm still partial to lynching Yunalesca. *NM*
07/08/2012 06:00:08 PM
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I cannot support that..
08/08/2012 02:47:32 PM
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I have to admit to being pretty RBIRL
09/08/2012 07:03:37 PM
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I have yet to decide my stance on modkills, I didn't expect to even have to think about using them. *NM*
09/08/2012 07:12:50 PM
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How's our chill doing? *NM*
09/08/2012 07:32:58 PM
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Some of you have already warmed up, but there are people who are definately feeling very cold. *NM*
09/08/2012 07:59:10 PM
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Okay, time to move on...
10/08/2012 05:13:06 AM
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HAHAHAHAHA
10/08/2012 09:10:44 AM
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I didn't think you were asking me- you just said "let's see what beet has to say"
10/08/2012 04:09:43 PM
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Well, not really a case
13/08/2012 04:15:46 PM
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my answer, finally (so sorry)
10/08/2012 07:57:36 PM
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I agree with you.
10/08/2012 09:15:23 PM
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FT's always lynch happy
10/08/2012 10:31:07 PM
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...Maybe
11/08/2012 08:54:51 AM
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Re: ...Maybe
12/08/2012 05:53:51 PM
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Re: ...Maybe
12/08/2012 07:22:24 PM
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Normal discussion also reveals who suspects who
13/08/2012 04:12:58 PM
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Four? In Finland school doesn't start until seven. *NM*
13/08/2012 06:40:13 PM
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A heads up, if things don't speed up, there will be time limit. *NM*
13/08/2012 06:41:00 PM
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Batter up!
14/08/2012 03:10:26 AM
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What was the actual question anyway?
15/08/2012 01:53:57 AM
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If you had to lynch someone right now, who and why? *NM*
15/08/2012 03:19:06 AM
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Ah, that explains it
15/08/2012 04:01:50 AM
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So.
15/08/2012 01:33:36 PM
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Re: So.
15/08/2012 02:54:24 PM
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Vote: Fanatic-Templar
15/08/2012 06:02:54 PM
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I have no such agreement, I'll point out
15/08/2012 03:45:39 PM
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Vote: Beetnemesis
15/08/2012 05:16:10 PM
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Hah
15/08/2012 07:57:39 PM
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A hunch sufficient to cast a vote for?
15/08/2012 08:57:01 PM
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...bloody-mindedness?
16/08/2012 01:29:40 AM
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Or a suicidal deathwish
16/08/2012 02:07:36 AM
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Well, I got the Serial Killer on day 1 last game...
16/08/2012 04:28:42 AM
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Ranagrande got the serial killer on Day 1 last game, that kill is all his
16/08/2012 05:06:13 AM
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Re: Ranagrande got the serial killer on Day 1 last game, that kill is all his
16/08/2012 05:51:02 AM
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Re: Ranagrande got the serial killer on Day 1 last game, that kill is all his
16/08/2012 11:53:49 AM
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I did forget about rana's awesome code-breaking, that's on me
16/08/2012 04:14:35 PM
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Yet the demonstration of a flaw in your hunch-record doens't result in an unvote? *NM*
17/08/2012 11:28:33 PM
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Nope.
20/08/2012 04:01:52 PM
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Never said all hunches were wrong, even coins land on tails half the time
20/08/2012 04:31:51 PM
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Summary of proposed targets
16/08/2012 02:43:41 AM
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Thanks for the summary
16/08/2012 06:51:29 AM
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RBIRL again. Sorry.
16/08/2012 06:06:52 PM
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If posting doesn't become significantly more active by monday evening, I will institute a time limit
18/08/2012 08:45:35 PM
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What are we tracking as the current vote count anyway?
19/08/2012 03:44:28 AM
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Re: What are we tracking as the current vote count anyway?
19/08/2012 11:17:48 AM
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I unvoted from Yunalesca a while back.
19/08/2012 05:09:30 PM
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Sorry, I missed that. I didn't notice the unvote above the quote box until now.
19/08/2012 08:53:31 PM
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I can't believe you missed that in the first post.
19/08/2012 11:45:42 AM
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eh, i'll vote where my mouth is. Vote: Fanatic-Templar *NM*
19/08/2012 10:49:35 PM
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Well, I gues that's SOMETHING
20/08/2012 10:51:36 AM
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Then I'll join the vote against Beetnemesis.
20/08/2012 05:00:16 PM
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I think you should reconsider
21/08/2012 05:18:30 AM
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Well, there isn't much of a case against anyone, this is Day 1 after all.
21/08/2012 06:47:18 AM
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My case isn't that I have a "hunch," it's that Isaac is acting the way he would if he was scum!
21/08/2012 08:39:11 PM
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Didn't you concur earlier that my behavior as scum and town is more or less invariant?
21/08/2012 09:20:38 PM
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Well, just because no one agrees with me doesn't mean I don't believe it.
22/08/2012 05:24:52 PM
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Re: Well, I gues that's SOMETHING
20/08/2012 05:21:21 PM
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It's not an OMGUS vote anymore, also my motives on Day 1 are typically fairly pure
21/08/2012 05:26:02 AM
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What was the argument against FT, again?
20/08/2012 04:07:26 PM
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I wanted to lynch Yunalesca for inactivity, and this was unkind. *NM*
20/08/2012 05:01:18 PM
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That wasn't the case in its entire...
20/08/2012 05:22:26 PM
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Well, you can't expect me to explain the case for my own lynch in flattering terms
. *NM*
20/08/2012 08:37:27 PM
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Obviously you are a demon *NM*
21/08/2012 05:14:12 AM
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That goes without saying. But we're supposed to lynch mafia, not demons. *NM*
21/08/2012 06:25:31 AM
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I have returned!
22/08/2012 01:35:32 AM
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Roleclaim: Fantasio, (Spirou's best friend)
22/08/2012 05:32:16 PM
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Re: Roleclaim: Fantasio, (Spirou's best friend)
22/08/2012 06:17:04 PM
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Unvote
22/08/2012 11:16:02 PM
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Of course it does sort of bounce up against that whole 'Amnesia' thing in the intro *NM*
23/08/2012 12:31:33 AM
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You don't know which character you are? *NM*
23/08/2012 02:38:39 AM
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I don't remember saying that, I'm just wondering if we should be casually dismissing it *NM*
23/08/2012 02:41:29 AM
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See, I've got a slight problem with that
23/08/2012 07:52:11 AM
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Hm I have no such sentence...
23/08/2012 12:36:58 PM
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I don't either but I can somewhat confirm that, also Beet lied, clearly and totally
23/08/2012 05:18:41 PM
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What?! Fantasio is a friend of this inventor dude, he wouldn't BE a trespasser!
24/08/2012 12:27:30 AM
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Good characters being good is far more reasonable than the opposite.
24/08/2012 04:23:16 AM
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6/7 or 5/7 games with named characters it was a horrible gauge
24/08/2012 05:20:23 AM
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I still say those previous games are irrelevant. Here's why:
24/08/2012 05:32:55 AM
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Quickly going over those you provided...
24/08/2012 07:33:01 AM
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What?
23/08/2012 03:43:24 PM
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And that's pretty unbelievable too
23/08/2012 07:07:35 PM
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I have NEVER claimed "secret intel," and I haven't claimed a role, either
24/08/2012 12:30:08 AM
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How curious.
23/08/2012 04:35:48 PM
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Vote: beetnemesis
23/08/2012 08:30:33 PM
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o...k, i have food poisoning and come back to this?
24/08/2012 12:58:49 AM
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Because I character claimed as Fantasio, which means I am evil Fantasio
24/08/2012 01:03:06 AM
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Interesting way of putting it...
24/08/2012 03:02:39 AM
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Re:
Interesting way of putting it...
24/08/2012 05:45:59 AM
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Re:
Interesting way of putting it...
24/08/2012 06:03:02 AM
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Re:
Interesting way of putting it...
24/08/2012 07:07:29 AM
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Yep, I just got back from school (didn't have time to check before it), Twilight will be up today.
24/08/2012 01:00:28 PM
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Probably post-hammer so...
24/08/2012 05:58:04 AM
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Wait so what exactly do you want us to do?
24/08/2012 09:19:12 PM
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Any reasonable compact account
24/08/2012 10:39:31 PM
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...Well memory really isn't my thing... *NM*
25/08/2012 03:51:10 AM
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My memory is awful, besides you write well
25/08/2012 04:12:02 AM
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Hmm trying to flatter me into doing the work eh?
*NM*
25/08/2012 07:05:08 PM
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If it works
*NM*
25/08/2012 07:48:12 PM
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...It might.
25/08/2012 09:27:59 PM
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Augh! I got nothing...
26/08/2012 02:43:37 AM
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What about your first game or your first Mod?
27/08/2012 01:32:47 AM
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I totally remember that. Napoleon, right? You guys kept accidentally posting as one another. *NM*
25/08/2012 12:31:05 AM
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Haha yeah that's him...
25/08/2012 03:50:38 AM
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I do... That was annoying. *NM*
25/08/2012 08:49:45 AM
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