If a speed limit sign is obscured by a bush and I'm unable to see it that makes me ignorant of the law. You can't get a traffic ticket for that. I've seen it successfully fought.
I think a better example would be an obscure traffic law rather than the speed limit. For example if you turn over an "imaginary island" you can be ticketed. There's nothing to prevent you from driving over one, and many people wouldn't have the foggiest as to what an imaginary island is, but in spite of this you can be ticketed for driving over one.
I got a ticket for doing that once, and tried the I don't know what that is, so how could I be expected to follow a law whose existence I had absolutely no knowledge of? The judge gave the exact same response Stephen did: "Ignorance of the law is not a valid defense."
Is it one of those spots at an intersection outlined with thick white stripes and has white stripes pointed diagonally through it, that's what's coming to my mind.
In others it's simply a spot where the yellow lines separate and there is a section of road between them. Nothing painted through it or anything, and it can actually look a lot like a simple turn lane. The one you're describing seems like common sense that you couldn't drive on, the other sort.....maybe it is common knowledge, maybe not, I certainly didn't know you couldn't drive on them at the time.
Why is downloading "illegally" really illegal?
19/01/2011 03:30:57 PM
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you can't legally record and distribute TV shows
19/01/2011 05:21:06 PM
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Re: you can't legally record and distribute TV shows
19/01/2011 09:52:48 PM
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Many shows (especially sports) forbid the duplication of said show in a statement or the credits.
20/01/2011 03:22:10 AM
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I haven't been able to read the credits for TV shows in years.
20/01/2011 03:51:40 AM
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Ignorance of the law is not a valid defence *NM*
21/01/2011 01:21:25 PM
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How do you figure that?
21/01/2011 02:08:13 PM
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Re: How do you figure that?
22/01/2011 08:33:04 PM
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What is an imaginary island?
23/01/2011 04:47:40 AM
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In some places it's exactly that
23/01/2011 07:35:32 AM
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A lot of it's volume.
19/01/2011 05:32:03 PM
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Your argument lacks merit.
19/01/2011 05:50:11 PM
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Both terms lack accuracy in this case really.
19/01/2011 06:37:29 PM
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We need to distinguish between a crime and a tort.
19/01/2011 10:17:30 PM
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Very interesting.
19/01/2011 10:28:35 PM
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Another scrabble word for you is "delict". That's what we call tort in Scotland.
19/01/2011 10:37:08 PM
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Very nice legal overview, also I like Scotland's approach a lot
19/01/2011 11:21:47 PM
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The case that decided information can't be stolen dates from 1987.
20/01/2011 09:35:31 AM
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Unfortunately, damages can result in thousands of dollars for one song
22/01/2011 08:19:40 PM
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Here's the US answer on the VCR thing, and how it relates to today's copyright problems
19/01/2011 11:35:31 PM
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Re: Here's the US answer on the VCR thing, and how it relates to today's copyright problems *NM*
19/01/2011 11:37:56 PM
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20/01/2011 12:49:55 AM
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