A fun time. Predictable, but not in a bad way. Minor Spoilers.
Dannymac Send a noteboard - 19/12/2009 03:05:19 AM
Let's get the obvious out of the way first. This was some of the best CGI I've seen. No real difficulties with suspension of disbelief here... if you buy that you are seeing an alien world, you will buy the CGI creatures.
The story has classics of several genres which simultaneously earn and nix the title of cliche. The science of the "Avatars" rings true with Cyberpunk themes of what reality is real, etc. The concept of the "noble savage" is present from classics such as The Last Samurai and the Mission. The Evil Corporation, such a key theme in so many of Cameron's movies, is present as well. They never name the company that I noticed, but I kept looking for Weyland-Yutani symbols on the Marines. Maybe they were there, and I missed them.
Matrix meets The Last Samurai meets Return of the Jedi meets Aliens meets Fern Gully. But when so many influences are being mixed, and done fairly well, might I add, the term cliche doesn't quite seem to apply anymore.
This is a movie where you will pretty much always know what will happen next. There are no plot twists to throw you, no grand reveals, no Sixth Sense moments, which is fine, as movies boasting those often seem sit back and say "aren't you so surprised?" To which we usually answer "Uh... no." However, instead of feeling all smug and disappointed when you see the path the movie is taking, instead you find yourself looking forward to it.
As has been said, this movie will win no awards for acting or screenplay, but the passable writing and acting combined with top notch technical movie making to be a very fun time... a darn good popcorn popper.
The story has classics of several genres which simultaneously earn and nix the title of cliche. The science of the "Avatars" rings true with Cyberpunk themes of what reality is real, etc. The concept of the "noble savage" is present from classics such as The Last Samurai and the Mission. The Evil Corporation, such a key theme in so many of Cameron's movies, is present as well. They never name the company that I noticed, but I kept looking for Weyland-Yutani symbols on the Marines. Maybe they were there, and I missed them.
Matrix meets The Last Samurai meets Return of the Jedi meets Aliens meets Fern Gully. But when so many influences are being mixed, and done fairly well, might I add, the term cliche doesn't quite seem to apply anymore.
This is a movie where you will pretty much always know what will happen next. There are no plot twists to throw you, no grand reveals, no Sixth Sense moments, which is fine, as movies boasting those often seem sit back and say "aren't you so surprised?" To which we usually answer "Uh... no." However, instead of feeling all smug and disappointed when you see the path the movie is taking, instead you find yourself looking forward to it.
As has been said, this movie will win no awards for acting or screenplay, but the passable writing and acting combined with top notch technical movie making to be a very fun time... a darn good popcorn popper.
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"Avatar" discussion thread
17/12/2009 08:10:04 AM
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Innovative world-building sci-fi, dull cliched story
17/12/2009 01:13:47 PM
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Doesn't that last paragraph describe Star Wars? *NM*
18/12/2009 03:33:58 AM
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Re: Doesn't that last paragraph describe Star Wars?
18/12/2009 09:49:23 AM
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Star Wars had many things. Good characters was not one of them. *NM*
18/12/2009 09:06:18 PM
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Re: Star Wars had many things. Good characters was not one of them.
19/12/2009 02:57:43 AM
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Avatar is basically Return of the Jedi, at least the part on Endor. But less militarily plausible
19/12/2009 02:22:35 AM
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Re:Avatar is basically Return of the Jedi, at least the part on Endor. But less militarily plausible
19/12/2009 03:04:37 AM
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Predictable with a tired & preachy plot. (spoilers) Also, the ending was completely ludicrous.
19/12/2009 03:02:21 AM
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A rebuttal! For the points I disagree with, anyway.
20/12/2009 05:07:59 AM
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Re: A rebuttal! For the points I disagree with, anyway.
21/12/2009 08:48:55 PM
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It would help if you'd leave my quotes by the arguments, but whatever.
22/12/2009 10:36:42 AM
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wow, you really do need help
21/12/2009 07:23:12 AM
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If the bad guy has all the stones and still loses, how heroic were the heroes?
21/12/2009 08:53:00 PM
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That's uncalled for IMO
25/12/2009 09:04:01 PM
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I am pretty sure she refered to the fact that he sheered for the bad guys and wished the Na'vi ill.
25/12/2009 09:19:32 PM
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I agree with your social commentary about the movie as ideological mirror for Cameron. *NM*
28/12/2009 05:09:56 AM
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A fun time. Predictable, but not in a bad way. Minor Spoilers.
19/12/2009 03:05:19 AM
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Saw it a few hours ago, and enjoyed it more than I thought I would.
20/12/2009 05:14:11 AM
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An absolutely breathtaking film whose beauty is surpassed only by its predictability.
20/12/2009 10:57:53 AM
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Has anyone seen this in 3D and not enjoyed it??
20/12/2009 06:11:52 PM
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Cannoli, presumably.
*NM*
20/12/2009 10:41:48 PM
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Sure make fun of the visually impaired, asshole.
21/12/2009 08:57:33 PM
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Sci-fi Pocahontas
21/12/2009 01:12:02 AM
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My friend and I spent the whole movie
07/01/2010 12:50:56 AM
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Oh so you're the kind of movie-goer in the seat behind me...
07/01/2010 11:20:56 AM
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No way!
07/01/2010 03:48:48 PM
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that you mock at all is incredibly disrespectful
07/01/2010 05:31:55 PM
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You're overreacting.
07/01/2010 06:20:06 PM
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You said you do it quietly
07/01/2010 08:18:07 PM
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Except maybe the purist who really needs to be kept in a total sensory deprivation chamber.
*NM*
08/01/2010 10:51:58 PM
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Nothing's more satisfying that seeing and hearing the crowd around you react like you do
09/01/2010 01:36:36 PM
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As usual, Hollywood shoves an ideology down peoples' throats. *NM*
26/12/2009 04:30:20 AM
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So, a silly thing I found distracting...
29/12/2009 07:26:02 AM
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A silly thing I found distracting was that the aliens were humanoid. *NM*
29/12/2009 09:48:46 AM
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Umm you would rather watch non-humanoid aliens? Yeah thats fun *NM*
29/12/2009 03:29:26 PM
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well. it's not necessarily erroneous either.
30/12/2009 06:28:57 AM
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Yes.
03/01/2010 05:08:17 PM
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I believe she was speaking about their tails.
07/01/2010 07:37:46 AM
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If I remember it was the "USB Plug" in their hair. *NM*
08/01/2010 08:29:38 AM
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Yep
08/01/2010 09:33:08 AM
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It was the best movie I've seen in ages. I'm seriously thinking of going to see it again. *NM*
29/12/2009 12:20:11 PM
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Wife and I saw it yesterday. We're going to the IMAX a town over to catch it again.
29/12/2009 09:22:01 PM
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Project 880: The Avatar that might have been
31/12/2009 10:30:21 AM
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It just took the double at the Golden Globes.
18/01/2010 04:04:08 AM
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