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probably! darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 11/06/2010 02:18:29 AM


The Dark One is the same. He wants to utterly destroy everything, so that he can undo time. For him, the Wheel is an eyesore. He wants to create the anti-Creation, but he can't do it while he's in prison and while the Pattern is sitting where he wants to build his house. Naturally everyone thinks he's the most evil thing ever, especially because he wants to eradicate everyone and everything. However, the Creator would do the same if the DO ever imprisoned him, and he managed to get out.


Think about it, the Creator imprisoned the DO at the moment of creation. Thus the DO was free all the way up until the Wheel came into existence. Seems logical that in order to be free Shai'tan will have to destroy the Wheel, in effect making the Wheel his actual prison.

Perhaps as you say he'll remake the Pattern in his own vision, and imprison the Creator, in effect making the DO the Creator and the Creator the DO.


The Creator may have put the DO in a hole and built his house on it, and thus it's as you say. Or he imprisoned him and made the Wheel at the same time.

I'm pretty sure the Myrddraal, Trollocs and anything else with the essence of the TP in them consider the DO to be their saviour and the Creator to be the devil. It seems like shadowspawn have inherent evil in them, and resist the pattern for no apparent reason. They can't even Travel. That's a hint of what anti-creation is.
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The Dark One vs. the Creator Etzel - 09/06/2010 09:54:41 PM 1153 Views
What I never understand in any fantasy series... Tom - 09/06/2010 10:22:13 PM 767 Views
utter evil always seems a bit shallow in the end Foxhead - 09/06/2010 11:16:59 PM 620 Views
Especially if you're immortal Tom - 10/06/2010 03:47:26 AM 582 Views
Here's another stumper for these things, but first newyorkersedai - 10/06/2010 12:08:41 AM 681 Views
Without discussing theodicy (that's a CMB sort of discussion)... Tom - 10/06/2010 03:53:31 AM 978 Views
I don't think RJ shows a balanced power system darius_sedai - 10/06/2010 12:23:03 PM 583 Views
It's name is the Creator, maby it's unable to destroy the DO? *NM* Lohikaarme - 15/06/2010 09:02:12 AM 238 Views
I think I get the goal of the one in WoT though. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 10/06/2010 12:11:57 AM 248 Views
Please elaborate, then. *pulls up chair and offers to pour alcohol* *NM* Tom - 10/06/2010 03:55:50 AM 255 Views
It's like Aerosmith said... Kieran - 10/06/2010 01:36:17 AM 588 Views
But Shai'tan is operating as though it's about the goal, not the journey. *NM* Tom - 10/06/2010 03:55:27 AM 266 Views
That is his thought... Kieran - 11/06/2010 01:54:42 AM 503 Views
I agree that Shaitan must've been behind the "Crying/Crazy/Amazin'" songs *NM* newyorkersedai - 10/06/2010 03:25:26 PM 329 Views
that's kind of the point... car'a'aman - 10/06/2010 04:19:30 AM 583 Views
This. Fanatic-Templar - 10/06/2010 04:40:34 AM 597 Views
Exactly. I've been saying this for quite a while RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/06/2010 10:29:01 PM 513 Views
I'll give this a go... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 05:19:49 AM 634 Views
destroy the circular nature of the wheel, instead of the wheel redhand - 11/06/2010 05:04:41 PM 519 Views
I don't agree with many of these people - I think the bad guys have plausible agendas Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:45:52 AM 551 Views
Personally I think the Wheel is the DOs prison not just an "eyesore" darius_sedai - 10/06/2010 12:29:13 PM 503 Views
Probably a chicken and egg scenario Sidious - 10/06/2010 03:29:34 PM 493 Views
probably! darius_sedai - 11/06/2010 02:18:29 AM 519 Views
As others said... Etzel - 10/06/2010 08:46:46 AM 518 Views
It could be that Dark One's goal is own death Skeeve the Great - 10/06/2010 02:18:13 AM 552 Views
Then why would he fight so hard? Tom - 10/06/2010 03:54:55 AM 671 Views
I like this idea... Etzel - 10/06/2010 08:47:52 AM 596 Views
I don't think he can die Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:57:05 AM 573 Views
Well... Fanatic-Templar - 10/06/2010 04:32:45 AM 631 Views
So... Etzel - 10/06/2010 08:49:48 AM 617 Views
Seems unlikely to me. Fanatic-Templar - 10/06/2010 06:09:46 PM 592 Views
Re: Well... Datakim - 10/06/2010 11:00:07 PM 523 Views
Re: Well... Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 12:12:55 AM 519 Views
Re: Well... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/06/2010 11:10:55 PM 517 Views
Re: Well... Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 12:20:28 AM 491 Views
Re: Well... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/06/2010 01:34:33 AM 487 Views
Okay. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 05:11:26 AM 462 Views
Re: Okay. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/06/2010 05:25:08 AM 536 Views
Oh, no. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 06:26:55 AM 546 Views
OK - I get it! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/06/2010 04:45:49 PM 473 Views
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