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probably! darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 11/06/2010 02:18:29 AM


The Dark One is the same. He wants to utterly destroy everything, so that he can undo time. For him, the Wheel is an eyesore. He wants to create the anti-Creation, but he can't do it while he's in prison and while the Pattern is sitting where he wants to build his house. Naturally everyone thinks he's the most evil thing ever, especially because he wants to eradicate everyone and everything. However, the Creator would do the same if the DO ever imprisoned him, and he managed to get out.


Think about it, the Creator imprisoned the DO at the moment of creation. Thus the DO was free all the way up until the Wheel came into existence. Seems logical that in order to be free Shai'tan will have to destroy the Wheel, in effect making the Wheel his actual prison.

Perhaps as you say he'll remake the Pattern in his own vision, and imprison the Creator, in effect making the DO the Creator and the Creator the DO.


The Creator may have put the DO in a hole and built his house on it, and thus it's as you say. Or he imprisoned him and made the Wheel at the same time.

I'm pretty sure the Myrddraal, Trollocs and anything else with the essence of the TP in them consider the DO to be their saviour and the Creator to be the devil. It seems like shadowspawn have inherent evil in them, and resist the pattern for no apparent reason. They can't even Travel. That's a hint of what anti-creation is.
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The Dark One vs. the Creator Etzel - 09/06/2010 09:54:41 PM 1086 Views
What I never understand in any fantasy series... Tom - 09/06/2010 10:22:13 PM 717 Views
utter evil always seems a bit shallow in the end Foxhead - 09/06/2010 11:16:59 PM 561 Views
Especially if you're immortal Tom - 10/06/2010 03:47:26 AM 536 Views
Here's another stumper for these things, but first newyorkersedai - 10/06/2010 12:08:41 AM 605 Views
Without discussing theodicy (that's a CMB sort of discussion)... Tom - 10/06/2010 03:53:31 AM 908 Views
I don't think RJ shows a balanced power system darius_sedai - 10/06/2010 12:23:03 PM 528 Views
It's name is the Creator, maby it's unable to destroy the DO? *NM* Lohikaarme - 15/06/2010 09:02:12 AM 216 Views
I think I get the goal of the one in WoT though. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 10/06/2010 12:11:57 AM 225 Views
Please elaborate, then. *pulls up chair and offers to pour alcohol* *NM* Tom - 10/06/2010 03:55:50 AM 229 Views
It's like Aerosmith said... Kieran - 10/06/2010 01:36:17 AM 519 Views
But Shai'tan is operating as though it's about the goal, not the journey. *NM* Tom - 10/06/2010 03:55:27 AM 241 Views
That is his thought... Kieran - 11/06/2010 01:54:42 AM 456 Views
I agree that Shaitan must've been behind the "Crying/Crazy/Amazin'" songs *NM* newyorkersedai - 10/06/2010 03:25:26 PM 299 Views
that's kind of the point... car'a'aman - 10/06/2010 04:19:30 AM 520 Views
This. Fanatic-Templar - 10/06/2010 04:40:34 AM 535 Views
Exactly. I've been saying this for quite a while RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/06/2010 10:29:01 PM 466 Views
I'll give this a go... fionwe1987 - 10/06/2010 05:19:49 AM 581 Views
destroy the circular nature of the wheel, instead of the wheel redhand - 11/06/2010 05:04:41 PM 453 Views
I don't agree with many of these people - I think the bad guys have plausible agendas Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:45:52 AM 503 Views
Personally I think the Wheel is the DOs prison not just an "eyesore" darius_sedai - 10/06/2010 12:29:13 PM 460 Views
Probably a chicken and egg scenario Sidious - 10/06/2010 03:29:34 PM 434 Views
probably! darius_sedai - 11/06/2010 02:18:29 AM 454 Views
As others said... Etzel - 10/06/2010 08:46:46 AM 463 Views
It could be that Dark One's goal is own death Skeeve the Great - 10/06/2010 02:18:13 AM 496 Views
Then why would he fight so hard? Tom - 10/06/2010 03:54:55 AM 584 Views
I like this idea... Etzel - 10/06/2010 08:47:52 AM 505 Views
I don't think he can die Sidious - 10/06/2010 08:57:05 AM 524 Views
Well... Fanatic-Templar - 10/06/2010 04:32:45 AM 570 Views
So... Etzel - 10/06/2010 08:49:48 AM 554 Views
Seems unlikely to me. Fanatic-Templar - 10/06/2010 06:09:46 PM 545 Views
Re: Well... Datakim - 10/06/2010 11:00:07 PM 467 Views
Re: Well... Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 12:12:55 AM 482 Views
Re: Well... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 10/06/2010 11:10:55 PM 441 Views
Re: Well... Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 12:20:28 AM 446 Views
Re: Well... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/06/2010 01:34:33 AM 436 Views
Okay. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 05:11:26 AM 417 Views
Re: Okay. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/06/2010 05:25:08 AM 478 Views
Oh, no. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 06:26:55 AM 483 Views
OK - I get it! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 11/06/2010 04:45:49 PM 424 Views
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