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The Amayar are likely connected to the Aiel, tinkers and Sea Folk in the way that they are all groups that branched from the original Da'shain aiel. The Amaymar seem to be the most retarded of the bunch by far.

Of course we know that they all committed mass suicide because they had absolute faith in their prophecies. Poisoning their children and so on. Perhaps their strength of conviction is both terrible and something to be held in awe. Perhaps they were just as crazy and evil as the cult that believed in Helter Skelter. That's what they remind me of.


I was leafing through a WOT forum and found this quote

Q: How do the Atha'an Miere and the Amayar deal with male channelers?
RJ: They kill them. Actually the Sea Folk kill their male channelers. The Amayar don't channel themselves - they see it as a violation of their Water Way and they commit suicide.


F***ing seriously!? How does a people so willing to commit suicide after every single slight to their demented beliefs ever manage to survive in the first place?

It just seems so ODD that RJ would have created this culture. Was that all they were good for? To kill themselves? Or will their sacrifice serve a purpose in the end? Something to do with the Sea Folk that are so devastated that their are gone?


Also, the Time of Illusion..A belief not totally unlike the Aiel belief of waking from the dream. But was it not convenient to the Shadow that this remnant of the Da'shain believed that when the Choedan Kal was finally used they ought to do themselves in? How does such a belief even start in the first place? A largely forgotten idea that the CK is extremely dangerous? Or did Ishamael dabble in their prophecies when he was free, perhaps thousands of years ago?

And who will make the Sea Folk porcelain now?


I say good riddance to any nation that commits mass suicide every time the Choedan Kal glows. It's like the High Lord Turak's personal servants who stabbed themselves when he died, or the Aiel male channelers who run off to the Blight, or Aiel Clan chiefs who tear their faces off when they see their past, or Aes Sedai who decide to stay in a ter'angreal for the 'better life'. All of these events are the Pattern's way of preventing imbeciles from becoming too important in the world, and keeping the average IQ higher than it would otherwise be.

Sadly the Shadow has no such filter, which explains why the Light trumps them so easily.
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I think the Amayar are the stupidest people ever - 30/06/2010 08:52:45 PM 2052 Views
It's the Jones Town massacre - 30/06/2010 09:33:42 PM 772 Views
Re: It's the Jones Town massacre - 03/07/2010 09:27:35 AM 775 Views
yeah, I despise fanatics of any type - 30/06/2010 09:44:08 PM 920 Views
Can't agree with all of those. - 30/06/2010 10:58:25 PM 875 Views
Yeah, I disagree too... - 01/07/2010 02:28:13 AM 863 Views
Re: Yeah, I disagree too... - 01/07/2010 03:20:30 AM 691 Views
I'm not sure. - 01/07/2010 03:45:44 AM 785 Views
Difficult to say. - 01/07/2010 05:09:46 AM 749 Views
Curse you, I had to go look up Nynaeve's Testing. - 01/07/2010 06:20:06 PM 790 Views
Nope, still can't agree. - 01/07/2010 06:40:25 PM 690 Views
I'm not going to argue that it's a good test - 01/07/2010 08:51:31 PM 641 Views
Re: I'm not going to argue that it's a good test - 01/07/2010 10:26:24 PM 721 Views
IMO, they do. - 02/07/2010 12:22:41 AM 690 Views
Okay different angle, - 02/07/2010 12:27:57 AM 585 Views
Re: Okay different angle, - 03/07/2010 08:29:09 PM 693 Views
Re: Okay different angle, - 03/07/2010 09:28:20 PM 585 Views
You really don't remember your dreams very often? - 03/07/2010 11:41:57 PM 672 Views
Haven't since I was a wee little kid. - 04/07/2010 12:54:11 AM 781 Views
Re: Haven't since I was a wee little kid. - 05/07/2010 06:02:24 AM 589 Views
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Chipping in... - 04/07/2010 01:11:26 AM 675 Views
Re: Chipping in... - 04/07/2010 02:44:21 AM 788 Views
Re: Chipping in... - 05/07/2010 09:16:51 AM 785 Views
You may be right. - 05/07/2010 05:53:21 PM 678 Views
Fair enough - 01/07/2010 08:53:05 AM 879 Views
Owyn helped his village? - 01/07/2010 11:23:37 AM 703 Views
Yeah - 01/07/2010 12:31:03 PM 746 Views
Easier than you think - 01/07/2010 12:42:39 PM 635 Views
Yes, I suppose they could. - 01/07/2010 06:16:38 PM 739 Views
Human beings have a pretty large capacity for "stupid" behavior - 30/06/2010 09:47:27 PM 688 Views
I'm certain that RJ based it off of something in real life - 30/06/2010 10:30:06 PM 689 Views
Re: I'm certain that RJ based it off of something in real life - 01/07/2010 01:39:50 AM 793 Views
and those crazy comet people in San Diego in the late 90's too! - 01/07/2010 03:49:59 PM 686 Views
Perhaps. - 30/06/2010 10:23:42 PM 701 Views
IMO that makes them even worse! - 30/06/2010 10:33:03 PM 651 Views
Considering that their system of belief... - 30/06/2010 11:55:12 PM 620 Views
But they could have played a part Singing, just like the Tinkers to which they're related may do *NM* - 01/07/2010 09:08:46 AM 359 Views
Because their feeble ability to sing to crops would really come in handy. - 01/07/2010 05:43:03 PM 791 Views
There are other SOngs than seed-singing. - 01/07/2010 06:26:54 PM 685 Views
Even if there are. They've been lost. And humanity has lost that Talent. - 01/07/2010 10:28:30 PM 566 Views
Only second-hand. - 01/07/2010 10:49:58 PM 836 Views
the Tinkers will at least make themselves useful as we saw in the BoEF - 01/07/2010 03:49:08 PM 639 Views
The Tinkers are also on the mainland... - 01/07/2010 05:36:40 PM 559 Views
to be fair, if I were an Amayar I would try to respawn as well *NM* - 01/07/2010 04:29:02 AM 643 Views
Take it from a lazy person's PoV: - 01/07/2010 10:51:07 AM 730 Views
LOL *NM* - 01/07/2010 03:53:31 PM 302 Views
You know... - 01/07/2010 06:42:41 PM 666 Views
But something of you still contiunes on. - 01/07/2010 10:30:12 PM 601 Views
Indeed - 01/07/2010 10:37:03 PM 598 Views
None of the Forsaken will pay for their crimes? - 01/07/2010 10:54:30 PM 619 Views
Re: None of the Forsaken will pay for their crimes? - 02/07/2010 12:01:35 AM 575 Views
Well, yes, but that's only temporary . - 02/07/2010 12:27:07 AM 743 Views
From my perspective, that is meaningless. - 01/07/2010 10:52:22 PM 555 Views
Given how often Prophecies are right in that world... - 01/07/2010 02:33:21 AM 634 Views
They should work to ensure there's a place to be reborn in. - 01/07/2010 08:10:46 PM 558 Views
Yeah, pretty crazy - 01/07/2010 01:17:33 PM 651 Views
Why? - 01/07/2010 03:20:36 PM 620 Views
Presumably, - 01/07/2010 06:45:02 PM 677 Views
Clear something up for me. - 01/07/2010 06:33:07 PM 629 Views
They aren't. - 01/07/2010 10:35:38 PM 573 Views
Re: They aren't. - 06/07/2010 03:42:40 PM 591 Views
The Amayar suck, but people believe crazy things - 01/07/2010 09:22:45 PM 817 Views

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