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I think it would have to work this way: Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 23/07/2010 03:10:59 PM
Ishy/Moridin starts off as a regular FS.

Then he gets stilled/burnt out/given a body that can't channel.

He uses the TP more and more, and the DO has a tie to him that won't be broken (since he is TP-addicted).

The presence of the DO inside Moridin grows.

As the seals break, this means that the DO can "take over" Moridin's body and twist it into SH (interestingly, compare this to when LTT was driven insane. Maybe this is similar to how it was done, and Ishmael's "healing" was really just channeling the DO out of LTT).

Moridin used to go further from SG (while he was still mainly Moridin) but now that he's becoming dominated by the DO he is restricted more and more to SH's "operable" area.

Now, compare SH's dark presence with that of Taim and Moridin. Moridin's DO presence is so advanced that it has basically gained it's own consiousness inside his body. It's like your shadow gaining a mind of its own.
This message last edited by Lord Haart on 23/07/2010 at 03:11:32 PM
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Moridin & Shadar Haran saidarisnowtainted - 22/07/2010 08:14:27 PM 1931 Views
No... Etzel - 22/07/2010 08:22:52 PM 1319 Views
Re: No... saidarisnowtainted - 22/07/2010 09:31:35 PM 1210 Views
Don't let her talk you out of it so easily. Give us the reasons behind your theory! Narg - 23/07/2010 03:41:00 AM 1155 Views
Re: Don't let her talk you out of it so easily. Give us the reasons behind your theory! saidarisnowtainted - 27/07/2010 04:00:26 PM 1011 Views
Re: No...(en garde, Etzellius Maximus!) Mik - 23/07/2010 08:38:26 AM 1217 Views
I haven't seen those answers either so I'm interested. I don't think they're the same Deadsy - 23/07/2010 08:49:11 AM 1068 Views
Well, I already talked more about it below Etzel - 23/07/2010 09:17:10 AM 1334 Views
Re: Well, I already talked more about it below Mik - 23/07/2010 11:29:08 AM 1159 Views
Yup, I think they are one and the same. Mik - 23/07/2010 08:21:20 AM 1486 Views
This idea is hardly vindicable Etzel - 23/07/2010 09:12:14 AM 1183 Views
Au contraire. Mik - 23/07/2010 11:23:09 AM 1334 Views
But why... Etzel - 23/07/2010 11:32:25 AM 1146 Views
Re: But why... Lord Haart - 23/07/2010 12:01:00 PM 1230 Views
Again. RJ fooled you. Mik - 23/07/2010 12:15:26 PM 1242 Views
I think it would have to work this way: Lord Haart - 23/07/2010 03:10:59 PM 1165 Views
Your reasoning falls apart right at the start, even though there is some truth to the rest, I think. Mik - 23/07/2010 04:22:22 PM 1249 Views
Um not quite Ryan - 25/07/2010 05:47:22 AM 1094 Views
Hehehe. True, but the mental image still helps. Ishamael - 25/07/2010 08:29:18 AM 1485 Views
Re: Hehehe. True, but the mental image still helps. Ishamael - 25/07/2010 08:32:10 AM 1471 Views
I think your evidence is pretty weak... Etzel - 26/07/2010 10:14:01 AM 1078 Views
Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? Mik - 26/07/2010 11:58:02 AM 1183 Views
Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? Etzel - 26/07/2010 12:18:51 PM 1166 Views
Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 12:43:53 PM 1117 Views
Frankly, I don't see any similarity... Etzel - 26/07/2010 01:57:56 PM 1150 Views
Re: Frankly, I don't see any similarity... Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 04:09:52 PM 1043 Views
The problem is... Etzel - 26/07/2010 04:27:50 PM 989 Views
No problem at all, but your unwillingness to accept the possibilty after all these years. Mik - 27/07/2010 11:38:10 AM 1099 Views
I already answered all this... Etzel - 27/07/2010 11:46:36 AM 1118 Views
Yeah. And as proven earlier your answers are flat-out wrong. Mik - 27/07/2010 01:17:36 PM 1214 Views
I think we have to agree to disagree Etzel - 27/07/2010 01:34:34 PM 1054 Views
Agreed then. Mik - 27/07/2010 02:03:52 PM 1187 Views
Thanks for those answers. Here's how wrong they actually are: Mik - 26/07/2010 01:54:44 PM 1146 Views
No problem Etzel - 26/07/2010 02:30:45 PM 1193 Views
Why does that scene matter? Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 04:16:33 PM 1104 Views
Dunno, you have to ask Mik about this. *NM* Etzel - 26/07/2010 04:23:19 PM 596 Views
Why the half answer? Here's my full answer and the questions you missed..again.. Mik - 26/07/2010 05:14:00 PM 1253 Views
Just to understand you correctly... Etzel - 26/07/2010 05:33:46 PM 1098 Views
Sure..I'll answer your questions again.. "quid pro quo"? Mik - 27/07/2010 12:43:21 PM 1170 Views
Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right Etzel - 27/07/2010 01:27:05 PM 1114 Views
Re: Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right Lord Haart - 27/07/2010 01:56:32 PM 1061 Views
The DO has control over Moridin... Etzel - 27/07/2010 02:04:50 PM 984 Views
Uhh. Thanks ..I guess. Mik - 27/07/2010 01:57:38 PM 1222 Views
I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: Gher - 26/07/2010 03:53:04 PM 1099 Views
Re: I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: Lord Haart - 26/07/2010 04:18:40 PM 977 Views
True, but if they're ordering other people to do it anyway... Gher - 26/07/2010 04:51:18 PM 984 Views
One should also remember... Etzel - 26/07/2010 05:06:36 PM 1017 Views
Eh? Mik - 26/07/2010 05:30:20 PM 1042 Views
But that the killing stopped, doesn't mean at all that Moridin and SH are one creature. *NM* Etzel - 26/07/2010 05:35:02 PM 1109 Views
Give me a better reason? Why did RJ make the timing fit and hid it so far apart? Mik - 26/07/2010 05:36:28 PM 1129 Views
I think... Etzel - 26/07/2010 05:48:21 PM 942 Views
Re: I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: Mik - 26/07/2010 05:22:46 PM 1161 Views
Re: This idea is hardly vindicable saidarisnowtainted - 27/07/2010 04:07:53 PM 1057 Views
= - Oh and has anyone given thought to Hopper = Bela? Lohikaarme - 27/07/2010 09:17:18 PM 956 Views
Thanks! *bows and tips wide-brimmed hat* Mik - 28/07/2010 07:54:05 AM 1204 Views
Not the same individual DomA - 24/07/2010 02:16:01 PM 1072 Views
Re: Not the same individual Lord Haart - 24/07/2010 06:07:10 PM 1004 Views
Aww Dom. I really hoped you were on the same page.. Mik - 25/07/2010 09:38:35 AM 1260 Views
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