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No problem at all, but your unwillingness to accept the possibilty after all these years. Mik Send a noteboard - 27/07/2010 11:38:10 AM
That there is no evidence to support this theory.
Then why can't you answer my simple questions?
I give valid answer, yet you are unwilling to accept them, while you have no answers of your own.

For starters, just answer these two right this time;
1: How did the Watcher -if he is Moridin as you say- see the link between Sammael & Grandael dissolve, while both held on to the Source?

2: How did the Watcher -if he is just a human male channeler called "Death"- know Sammael held the Source, when he was trailing him from pretty far off?

3: Why didn't Sammael and/ or Grandeal hear a single thing behind them, while they could read a news-paper at 30 feet and could hear a mouse sneeze?


As far as we know from the books and the authors, SH and Moridin are separate characters.
As I've shown you -directly- from the books, this is more then debatable. And in fact, untill you answer those questions above (for starters), it's even more likely that they are linked.

As for the author. How did RJ put it? He likes to watch you sqiurm. He likes to surprise you and then in hindsight, you can re-read it was always hidden in plain view all over the books.
I sat on my hands for years, keeping this to myself just so that if I was right, I wouldn't be spoiling it so soon. So close to the end, I figured I might as well speak up.


It's not clear at all, why this wouldn't work, or what would be the merit of having a physical Moridin/SH combo instead of Moridin and SH simply working together.
You think way too much of what Shai'tan is cabable off, on this side of Creation. Shai'tan is lord and master on the other side. And there, He's Lord of Nothing; Lord of ????.




Straight from wikipedia:
Chaos (Greek ???? khaos) refers to the formless or void state preceding the creation of the universe or cosmos in creation myths, particularly Greek but also in related religions of the Ancient Near East. The motif of chaoskampf (German for struggle against chaos) is ubiquitous in these myths, depicting a battle of a culture hero deity with a chaos monster, often in the shape of a serpent or dragon. He is known as the god of darkness.

Greek ???? means "gaping void, chasm, abyss", from the verb ????? "gape, be wide open, etc"
Mik ~ Ishamaels halfmad 'brother'

Death dances in my footsteps....
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No... - 22/07/2010 08:22:52 PM 1261 Views
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Re: No...(en garde, Etzellius Maximus!) - 23/07/2010 08:38:26 AM 1155 Views
Well, I already talked more about it below - 23/07/2010 09:17:10 AM 1269 Views
Re: Well, I already talked more about it below - 23/07/2010 11:29:08 AM 1104 Views
Yup, I think they are one and the same. - 23/07/2010 08:21:20 AM 1414 Views
This idea is hardly vindicable - 23/07/2010 09:12:14 AM 1133 Views
Au contraire. - 23/07/2010 11:23:09 AM 1263 Views
But why... - 23/07/2010 11:32:25 AM 1075 Views
Re: But why... - 23/07/2010 12:01:00 PM 1170 Views
Again. RJ fooled you. - 23/07/2010 12:15:26 PM 1176 Views
I think it would have to work this way: - 23/07/2010 03:10:59 PM 1104 Views
Your reasoning falls apart right at the start, even though there is some truth to the rest, I think. - 23/07/2010 04:22:22 PM 1194 Views
Um not quite - 25/07/2010 05:47:22 AM 1042 Views
Hehehe. True, but the mental image still helps. - 25/07/2010 08:29:18 AM 1416 Views
Re: Hehehe. True, but the mental image still helps. - 25/07/2010 08:32:10 AM 1415 Views
I think your evidence is pretty weak... - 26/07/2010 10:14:01 AM 1021 Views
Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? - 26/07/2010 11:58:02 AM 1122 Views
Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? - 26/07/2010 12:18:51 PM 1106 Views
Re: Why don't you answer some of the issues I raised then, instead of keeping it vague..? - 26/07/2010 12:43:53 PM 1052 Views
Frankly, I don't see any similarity... - 26/07/2010 01:57:56 PM 1087 Views
Re: Frankly, I don't see any similarity... - 26/07/2010 04:09:52 PM 981 Views
The problem is... - 26/07/2010 04:27:50 PM 942 Views
No problem at all, but your unwillingness to accept the possibilty after all these years. - 27/07/2010 11:38:10 AM 1042 Views
I already answered all this... - 27/07/2010 11:46:36 AM 1061 Views
Yeah. And as proven earlier your answers are flat-out wrong. - 27/07/2010 01:17:36 PM 1158 Views
I think we have to agree to disagree - 27/07/2010 01:34:34 PM 1005 Views
Agreed then. - 27/07/2010 02:03:52 PM 1127 Views
Thanks for those answers. Here's how wrong they actually are: - 26/07/2010 01:54:44 PM 1084 Views
No problem - 26/07/2010 02:30:45 PM 1143 Views
Why does that scene matter? - 26/07/2010 04:16:33 PM 1043 Views
Dunno, you have to ask Mik about this. *NM* - 26/07/2010 04:23:19 PM 570 Views
Why the half answer? Here's my full answer and the questions you missed..again.. - 26/07/2010 05:14:00 PM 1200 Views
Just to understand you correctly... - 26/07/2010 05:33:46 PM 1045 Views
Sure..I'll answer your questions again.. "quid pro quo"? - 27/07/2010 12:43:21 PM 1112 Views
Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right - 27/07/2010 01:27:05 PM 1057 Views
Re: Well, kudos to you, if that idea turns out to be right - 27/07/2010 01:56:32 PM 1004 Views
The DO has control over Moridin... - 27/07/2010 02:04:50 PM 915 Views
Uhh. Thanks ..I guess. - 27/07/2010 01:57:38 PM 1151 Views
I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: - 26/07/2010 03:53:04 PM 1041 Views
Re: I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: - 26/07/2010 04:18:40 PM 916 Views
True, but if they're ordering other people to do it anyway... - 26/07/2010 04:51:18 PM 933 Views
One should also remember... - 26/07/2010 05:06:36 PM 962 Views
Eh? - 26/07/2010 05:30:20 PM 981 Views
But that the killing stopped, doesn't mean at all that Moridin and SH are one creature. *NM* - 26/07/2010 05:35:02 PM 1051 Views
Give me a better reason? Why did RJ make the timing fit and hid it so far apart? - 26/07/2010 05:36:28 PM 1073 Views
I think... - 26/07/2010 05:48:21 PM 884 Views
Re: I almost want the theory to be true, but one quick thing: - 26/07/2010 05:22:46 PM 1098 Views
Re: This idea is hardly vindicable - 27/07/2010 04:07:53 PM 998 Views
= - Oh and has anyone given thought to Hopper = Bela? - 27/07/2010 09:17:18 PM 906 Views
Thanks! *bows and tips wide-brimmed hat* - 28/07/2010 07:54:05 AM 1143 Views
Not the same individual - 24/07/2010 02:16:01 PM 1015 Views
Re: Not the same individual - 24/07/2010 06:07:10 PM 945 Views
Aww Dom. I really hoped you were on the same page.. - 25/07/2010 09:38:35 AM 1202 Views

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