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Re: they can't Datakim Send a noteboard - 04/08/2010 05:35:20 AM

Ah, but they only have to find a way around 1 component of any of the Oaths, not all of them or even an 'entire' Oath. The Oath in question specifically gives an exemption for using the Power as a weapon if another Sister's life is in danger. I think that argument can be made for the Sisters already taken by the Seanchan so is justification for 'offensive/first-strike' use of the One Power as a weapon.


Except that the Seanchan consider captured damane to be extremely valuable and as such the lives of captured sisters are infact NOT in danger at all. The Seanchan would keep them alive and healthy as well as they could, just as they would any usefull "tool" (which is what the damane are to the Seanchan).

The freedom/sanity of the captured sisters is in danger yes, but in its current form the oaths care only about their lives. Maybe if an AS could convince herself that being broken and brainwashed by the collar would be a death of sort, then they could claim that the "life" of the sister was in danger. But again this would be the type of mental gymnastic that I suspect few would be capable off.

Personally it would be smartest to just get rid of the oath alltogether, or atleast add an exception for the Seanchan. This exception would keep the people who are AS-positive/neutral happy, but allow unlimited warfare against the Seanchan.
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Why not take an oath... brett014 - 04/08/2010 12:09:46 AM 961 Views
or just adapt the one power as a weapon oath to include a sister's freedom as well as her life *NM* nigelgoboom - 04/08/2010 01:45:43 AM 406 Views
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they can't Foxhead - 04/08/2010 12:54:46 AM 977 Views
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Re: they can't fionwe1987 - 04/08/2010 07:09:45 AM 925 Views
Re: they can't Datakim - 04/08/2010 02:44:10 PM 857 Views
read the oaths again darius_sedai - 04/08/2010 08:15:24 PM 911 Views
Re: read the oaths again Datakim - 05/08/2010 01:08:32 AM 945 Views
Re: read the oaths again darius_sedai - 05/08/2010 05:52:08 PM 912 Views
I don't think #1 is as simple as you say. Gher - 04/08/2010 02:22:25 AM 869 Views
What kind of advantage is it, anyway? Fanatic-Templar - 04/08/2010 03:43:40 AM 851 Views
Re: What kind of advantage is it, anyway? DomA - 04/08/2010 11:16:03 AM 844 Views
Gher - 04/08/2010 04:04:35 PM 839 Views
Egwene had novices teach it to Adelorna... fionwe1987 - 04/08/2010 07:10:42 AM 916 Views
For the most part, they can only defend themselves... DomA - 04/08/2010 10:59:23 AM 1052 Views
Yes, we really need to see... Nameless Ashaman - 04/08/2010 01:19:15 PM 860 Views
Re: For the most part, they can only defend themselves... Code_Man65 - 04/08/2010 03:35:53 PM 892 Views
Re: For the most part, they can only defend themselves... Watcher - 04/08/2010 04:41:41 PM 835 Views
Re: For the most part, they can only defend themselves... Datakim - 05/08/2010 01:17:44 AM 888 Views
I think the BT would wipe the floor with the damane on their home turf darius_sedai - 05/08/2010 08:19:38 PM 823 Views
Re: I think the BT would wipe the floor with the damane on their home turf Datakim - 05/08/2010 11:57:43 PM 857 Views
Whoa whoa whoa! Nameless Ashaman - 06/08/2010 03:07:34 AM 884 Views
agreed! darius_sedai - 06/08/2010 05:37:46 PM 874 Views
Re: Whoa whoa whoa! Datakim - 06/08/2010 07:42:35 PM 950 Views
Are you kidding? darius_sedai - 06/08/2010 11:49:42 PM 882 Views
I actually think the opposite: the damane would wipe the floor with the BT RugbyPlayingAshaman - 13/08/2010 11:27:21 PM 886 Views
Umm... Dumai's wells? Nameless Ashaman - 14/08/2010 04:15:59 AM 813 Views
Depends on the circumstances really darius_sedai - 14/08/2010 02:39:30 PM 865 Views
I don't think that's the case darius_sedai - 05/08/2010 08:02:27 PM 971 Views
My thoughts on the damane... Great Lord of Chaos - 05/08/2010 04:11:35 AM 844 Views
Re: My thoughts on the damane... Datakim - 05/08/2010 01:24:38 PM 854 Views
How exactly would Egwene learn where the Damane are kept? darius_sedai - 05/08/2010 07:57:55 PM 1061 Views
Interrogate the Damane. Great Lord of Chaos - 05/08/2010 10:32:17 PM 754 Views
unlikely that she would go there darius_sedai - 06/08/2010 05:37:18 PM 882 Views
Re: unlikely that she would go there Datakim - 06/08/2010 07:47:41 PM 825 Views
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