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Re: Perhaps they would die? Lordling Send a noteboard - 05/08/2010 04:33:25 PM

I don't understand you logic here at all. In this context a "sister" is another Aes Sedai. Aes Sedai are sisters, Amyrlin is the Mother and novices are children. Property don't have sisters, they're not related to anyone.

Aes Sedai probably couldn't channel to save their biological sisters, because they all understand the Oath to mean just Aes Sedai sisters, and are thus bound by their interpretation.

You almost answered it yourself. "Interpretation". How the AS views the word "sister" in this context is paramount. The AS normally view it to mean another sister, but the oath itself does not make this explicit. As such it seems to me that if a damane could be brainwashed enough that she considered all Seanchan her "sisters", then the oath would allow her to protect other seanchan.

And I also made the point that damane don't have sisters. If you brainwash yourself a good damane you're going to implement them the belief that they're property with no ties to anyone. They have to see themselves as the leashed slaves whose goal in life is to obey. The idea of sisterhood seems far-fetched when all you are is a pet or a tool.

I bet any Seanchan would be enraged if a damane dared claim they're family. It would feel as if Jeffrey Dahmer was humping your leg and telling you that he's your uncle.

What was the original topic about, btw..Oh, Aes Sedai fighting Damane. Well, this could still be way more off-topic.
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I don't think #1 is as simple as you say. Gher - 04/08/2010 02:22:25 AM 916 Views
What kind of advantage is it, anyway? Fanatic-Templar - 04/08/2010 03:43:40 AM 907 Views
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Egwene had novices teach it to Adelorna... fionwe1987 - 04/08/2010 07:10:42 AM 963 Views
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Interrogate the Damane. Great Lord of Chaos - 05/08/2010 10:32:17 PM 783 Views
unlikely that she would go there darius_sedai - 06/08/2010 05:37:18 PM 901 Views
Re: unlikely that she would go there Datakim - 06/08/2010 07:47:41 PM 851 Views
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