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I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM
What I think happened is, just as with Egwene figuring out how to create the Skimming effect by applying theoretical principles of saidar to Moghedien's suggestions, Moiraine might have read or heard about the properties of balefire and reasoned out that accomplishing such a feat might require all five flows and then dangerous guesswork as to how it might look and work.
"Those who think they have no time for bodily exercise will sooner or later have to find time for illness."
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? malekithe - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 1773 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... Froggles - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1112 Views
Agreed. Lord Haart - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1012 Views
You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering these weaves Shannow - 20/08/2010 10:08:10 AM 1119 Views
Re: You're right. It is merely a plot requirement, made ludicrous by the ease of mastering Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:40:16 PM 865 Views
These are good points. To some extent, it may be because our main characters are "gifted" channelers newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:57:49 PM 878 Views
The bigger problem is minor characters copying the weaves so quickly... Shannow - 20/08/2010 09:14:25 PM 929 Views
Lost Weaves Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1097 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 534 Views
Not logical Shannow - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1083 Views
Re: Not logical Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 909 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. Shannow - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1036 Views
All good points also. Ashaman_Luc - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1382 Views
Re: Not logical Evil_Monkey - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 878 Views
Re: Not logical mmcleod - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 807 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement darius_sedai - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 896 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement Ashaman_Luc - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 806 Views
If you go back and read the descriptions of the breaking, and think about the 3000 year cycle newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 04:37:02 PM 956 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. Gher - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 904 Views
The need to learn a location to travel Ryan - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 851 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. Gher - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 810 Views
You & Ryan make good points, esp on balefire/compulsion. In a shorter series, it'd make more sense newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 08:52:59 PM 918 Views
My only theory... Nameless Ashaman - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 866 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... lodlom - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1014 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property Helene - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 834 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* newyorkersedai - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 373 Views
If they are secretive and protective, it's not a huge stretch that knowledge would be taken into the Helene - 21/08/2010 10:27:15 AM 953 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... scooter - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 977 Views
Idea? Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 768 Views
But they weren't too weak malekithe - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 845 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. Great Lord of Chaos - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 931 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 903 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* Sidious - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1057 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 410 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... DomA - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 845 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* NaClH2O - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 417 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 872 Views
Me neither... DomA - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 906 Views
Mispost.. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 476 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP RugbyPlayingAshaman - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 850 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP DomA - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1181 Views
But... fionwe1987 - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 826 Views
When did she use that? *NM* Lord Haart - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 390 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 996 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. Gher - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 952 Views
Likely from Vandene DomA - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1193 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... Phelix - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 917 Views
one thing i've noticed Yunalesca - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 857 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. Macharius - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 824 Views
Passing on useful survival skills trumped esoteric lore during the War of Power and the Breaking RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/08/2010 03:18:47 PM 1007 Views
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