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Me neither... DomA Send a noteboard - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM
Obviously weaves like balefire and compulsion survived the Breaking (unsurprising that "combat weaves" did really... it's probably the area the Breaking era people were mostly taught in... while they had no time to teach and preserve all the rest) because at some point the White Tower specifically outlawed both weaves. There's no point to that if knowledge had vanished then. I think the Green Ajah, dedicated to fighting the LB one day, has secretely preserved knowledge of the outlawed weaves through a few sisters in each generation. Both Cadsuane and Vandene are the type of level-headed no nonsense Greens who could be trusted by the Ajah Head to be repository of such knowledge in their generation.

I don't think any weave can be learned from a written description, though no doubt between all these virtual reality ter'angreal someone in the AOL had figured out how to make a live action visual rendition of weaves (faked, but accurate) for preservation and training (similar to computer graphics) Elayne's "holographic" library may even very well have examples of that. Back then, there must have been tons of very specialized weaves and specialized derivatives of some weaves, and I don't think the AOL were, like the WT and the other groups of the third Age, forced to re invent weaves all the time because weaves could only be taught by a teacher to a pupil and some get lost (especially that back then, a sister might be expected to learn to do things with saidin as well if she wanted to become a mixed gender circle leader). I think there almost certainly existed some channelling multi-media repositories, with visual renditions of weaves and techniques - like you put a VR helmet on and you see holographic renditions of weaves you want to learn.
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How were all these amazing weaves 'lost' ? - 20/08/2010 04:33:43 AM 1772 Views
Ishamael may have had a hand in that... - 20/08/2010 04:45:39 AM 1112 Views
Agreed. - 20/08/2010 10:01:37 AM 1012 Views
Lost Weaves - 20/08/2010 01:43:25 PM 1096 Views
Re: Lost Weaves *NM* - 20/08/2010 01:45:30 PM 533 Views
Not logical - 20/08/2010 01:50:32 PM 1083 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:22:04 PM 909 Views
All I'm saying, is that Travelling would STILL be a very usefull survival tool during the Breaking.. - 20/08/2010 03:44:59 PM 1035 Views
All good points also. - 20/08/2010 03:48:49 PM 1382 Views
Re: Not logical - 20/08/2010 03:45:55 PM 877 Views
Re: Not logical - 21/08/2010 04:20:41 AM 806 Views
you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 21/08/2010 05:06:59 PM 895 Views
Re: you may have hit onto something with your last statement - 23/08/2010 05:09:06 PM 805 Views
I don't think that creating cuendillar and 'angreals was common knowledge. - 20/08/2010 05:06:20 PM 904 Views
The need to learn a location to travel - 20/08/2010 05:58:48 PM 850 Views
They could use Rand's trick from TGS. - 21/08/2010 01:06:33 AM 810 Views
My only theory... - 20/08/2010 06:02:14 PM 865 Views
The Strongest Died seems like a pretty valid theory to me... - 20/08/2010 06:14:29 PM 1014 Views
Maybe Aes Sedai treated weaves like Intellectual Property - 20/08/2010 09:49:12 PM 834 Views
Trademark? Patent? Or Copyright? =P *NM* - 20/08/2010 10:19:36 PM 372 Views
It doesn't have to be logical... - 20/08/2010 11:50:17 PM 977 Views
Idea? - 21/08/2010 12:47:52 AM 767 Views
But they weren't too weak - 21/08/2010 02:48:43 AM 845 Views
That's because most of the major people in WoT are powerful channelers. - 21/08/2010 04:13:04 AM 930 Views
How can you "write a weave down"? - 21/08/2010 04:54:28 PM 903 Views
How did Moiraine learn balefire then? *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:04:27 PM 1056 Views
figured it out on her own, don't forget that Nyn used it too against the Fades in TDR. *NM* - 21/08/2010 05:12:15 PM 409 Views
That's a stretch - Moiraine never demonstrated any creative talent with the OP... - 21/08/2010 06:15:01 PM 844 Views
OK, I'll buy Vandene teaching it, but not learning it from a written description *NM* - 21/08/2010 06:35:46 PM 417 Views
I myself can't buy Vandene teaching that weave to any Sister - 24/08/2010 04:06:26 PM 871 Views
Me neither... - 24/08/2010 05:50:24 PM 906 Views
Mispost.. *NM* - 25/08/2010 02:51:02 PM 476 Views
I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 03:31:06 PM 849 Views
Re: I disagree - Moiraine's wilder tricks show that she is quite creative with the OP - 24/08/2010 05:32:11 PM 1180 Views
But... - 24/08/2010 06:40:39 PM 826 Views
When did she use that? *NM* - 25/08/2010 09:34:31 AM 390 Views
We know of her trick with stones and light from 'New Spring' IIRC - 25/08/2010 02:40:26 PM 995 Views
Elayne did use Moiraine's coin trick. - 25/08/2010 06:09:27 PM 951 Views
Likely from Vandene - 21/08/2010 05:58:31 PM 1192 Views
Something no one else is mentioning... that I saw... - 21/08/2010 07:15:49 PM 916 Views
one thing i've noticed - 23/08/2010 06:37:48 PM 856 Views
Simple: none were necessary for survival in Stone Age barbarism. - 23/08/2010 09:12:40 PM 824 Views

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