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Think of it this way, Emma... Terez Send a noteboard - 13/10/2010 06:00:11 PM
It was always a struggle finding someone to argue your side in the Lews Therin debates. Part of the problem was simply that your English isn't all that great. Not as good as Sare's, much less Gonzo's. That's not your fault. Etzel did it for a little while, and he was alright at it, though he harped on a paraphrased signing report as if it was supposed to somehow contradict volumes of canon. Gonzo understood the issue better than most, but he was only ever playing devil's advocate, which did not make for good debates.

But this time, I agree with you! This should be a happy thing, right? I have gone to all the trouble to find all of the quotes and parallels and such that support the theory, beyond the foreshadowing for Nynaeve Healing death that everyone has known about for well over a decade now. I think I have found some really good stuff that is going to convince a lot of people on the theory.

But instead of being happy that we agree for once, you are trying to pick a fight over something that I never even implied. And maybe this is again an issue of your English, but quite obviously, when Bob asked me the question in the first place, he was aware that this theory had been kicking around for a very, very long time. Furthermore, when someone says 'this is my theory', it is not generally assumed that the person is claiming to have come up with the idea in the first place. They are saying 'this is the theory that I believe/support'.

Even my Gawyn theory, which is about as original as they come, has probably been suggested dozens of times on the forums over the years. Does it really matter? There is a huge difference between saying 'I think Gawyn is going to kill Rand' and actually finding a ton of evidence to support it. Like Verin. Some people have found old posts of themselves suggesting that maybe Verin's last serious mistake was to join the Black Ajah. And while there was some back-slapping involved, for the most part no one really cares, because there's a difference between coming up with an idea and developing it into a convincing theory.

So, either you can follow me around on forums being silly and telling everyone what they already know, or for once, we can be on the same team. If you have suggestions for how to make the theory better, I will take them into consideration (I'm going to post a formal version of it on the home page after TOM - I don't think it will be revealed in TOM, and we'll get more clues hopefully - especially the Perrin aspect!), but for now, you have a nice dissertation to link whenever you want to convince someone of your theory.
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attn: Etzel re: theories on the fulfillment of Rand's death prophecies - 12/10/2010 12:35:42 AM 1881 Views
You never noticed the Noteboard feature, did you? - 12/10/2010 03:37:53 AM 1146 Views
Actually, I made it a survey. - 12/10/2010 03:42:16 AM 1073 Views
Horn Double Death - 12/10/2010 05:30:47 AM 1319 Views
If he dies when called by the Horn... - 12/10/2010 05:34:56 AM 979 Views
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Re: If he dies when called by the Horn... - 12/10/2010 05:55:28 AM 1008 Views
I just don't see that as Nynaeve's "area of expertise" - 13/10/2010 10:09:39 PM 1087 Views
Nynaeve was the one who witnessed the weave, not Egwene. - 14/10/2010 12:38:14 AM 1065 Views
Another Variation on the Horn - 13/10/2010 04:28:38 AM 1011 Views
There's also the "ripped from TAR after death" theory, ala Birgitte (re how Rand lives again). - 12/10/2010 04:37:26 PM 1135 Views
That be my theory - 12/10/2010 04:45:55 PM 1227 Views
and from all other people - 12/10/2010 05:33:45 PM 1325 Views
And your point is? *NM* - 12/10/2010 05:35:35 PM 533 Views
It's not specifically your theory. or a theory that you thought of first..... *NM* - 13/10/2010 04:32:48 PM 520 Views
Nobody said I thought of it first. - 13/10/2010 04:36:45 PM 1019 Views
Re: Nobody said I thought of it first. - 13/10/2010 06:27:29 PM 1077 Views
It's the truth. - 13/10/2010 06:29:56 PM 1026 Views
Think of it this way, Emma... - 13/10/2010 06:00:11 PM 1141 Views
Re: Think of it this way, Emma... *NM* - 13/10/2010 06:26:09 PM 571 Views
You could at least try not to contradict yourself. - 13/10/2010 06:29:11 PM 1016 Views
Me being childish? - 13/10/2010 06:52:24 PM 1056 Views
Some more thoughts ... - 12/10/2010 05:03:58 PM 1206 Views
I don't think it is necessary that Rand be a public figure as Elayne's husband. - 12/10/2010 05:08:10 PM 1034 Views
It's not that I think it's necessary, per se ... - 12/10/2010 05:44:03 PM 1156 Views
On that particular point... - 12/10/2010 06:05:59 PM 1170 Views
That's reasonable speculation, I think ... - 12/10/2010 07:58:23 PM 1065 Views
I don't know that Egwene's lack of recognition necessarily means anything... - 12/10/2010 08:07:11 PM 966 Views
Yep, I agree ... - 12/10/2010 09:18:57 PM 1096 Views
By the way ... - 12/10/2010 10:07:49 PM 954 Views
But that is not the only prophecy of Rand's death. - 12/10/2010 10:13:50 PM 981 Views
Just playing devil's advocate here ... - 12/10/2010 10:58:40 PM 1180 Views
That raises an interesting question: - 13/10/2010 04:01:17 PM 1123 Views
Re: That raises an interesting question: - 13/10/2010 05:57:39 PM 1096 Views
IIRC... - 12/10/2010 07:58:39 PM 1235 Views
That is unfortunate. - 12/10/2010 08:02:18 PM 1063 Views
Switching bodies with Logain is mine. *NM* - 13/10/2010 05:03:43 AM 551 Views
Are we doing that now? I call dibs on Be'laim. - 14/10/2010 04:32:59 PM 1129 Views
Body swap or Nynaeve heal seem the best bets to me. - 14/10/2010 04:42:16 PM 1091 Views

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