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i agree. and this is part of the reason why i don't understand why people have a hard time w/ egwene mazza3 Send a noteboard - 05/11/2010 03:56:48 PM

Wow, a ruler who's trying to expand her influence and territories? Truly groundbreaking.

Why should Egwene sit in the White Tower like a lame duck? Cairhien has been a place of squabbling nobles since the beginning of the series, and probably since the Aiel War. If the White Tower can gain the city, then why shouldn't they? It's obvious that Egwene wants to use diplomatic and subtle means to get the city (despite warmongering theories that have zero evidence to back them up).

This isn't even a new idea, though obviously because Egwene is involved from some distance its caused hysteria. Almost as soon as Moiraine was raised to the shawl they were pimping her to take over Cairhien using her blood line, and they definitely did the same with Elayne, and openly said so. Siuan, Elaida and Morgase wanted Elayne to be the first open Aes Sedai on the throne of Andor, and obviously Elayne answers to the Amyrlin above all people. So Andor is pretty much the White Tower's. Considering Cairhien is a city waiting to be taken, how negligent would Egwene be not to look in its direction?


i am not the world's biggest egwene fan, but i very much understand her role in the story. arthur hawkwing was a real shit, but he crafted a huge empire and turned randland into a v safe place. and he was revered, despite being a prick. people in positions of power tend to be royal a-holes (in our world), but we accept that because deep down we understand that they have to be. and they have to be concerned about maintaining their own power since if they don't maintain it, who will maintain it for them? of course they are strong-willed and arrogant, you don't achieve power and success without drive, and you don't have drive unless you think you can do it. and you need at least some measure of pride, arrogance or over-weening ego to motivate you. egwene may have been thrust into a position of power, but she had all of the tools needed to be in control. whether or not you think she is a good leader is irrelevant. at this point, randland needs a strong leader and she definitely is that. and derr, she grew up with rand, so guess what, the pattern wanted her where she is.

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"She knew Egwene wanted Cairhien..." - 05/11/2010 03:22:29 AM 2637 Views
Do you have a reference that we can look at? - 05/11/2010 03:24:39 AM 1111 Views
Chapter 45 - A Reunion, Page 669 - 05/11/2010 03:59:25 AM 1322 Views
Ok, now I've checked it. - 05/11/2010 04:07:20 AM 1173 Views
Re: "She knew Egwene wanted Cairhien..." - 05/11/2010 03:49:16 AM 1364 Views
Re: "She knew Egwene wanted Cairhien..." - 05/11/2010 01:42:54 PM 1092 Views
except... - 05/11/2010 03:49:45 AM 1224 Views
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We all know Egwene is going to save the day while getting everything she wants and more - 05/11/2010 04:14:55 AM 1273 Views
Egwene also needs to talk to her mother and father - 05/11/2010 04:25:43 AM 1073 Views
Re: Egwene also needs to talk to her mother and father - 05/11/2010 01:53:17 PM 1126 Views
Re: Egwene also needs to talk to her mother and father - 05/11/2010 02:00:37 PM 1184 Views
Re: Egwene also needs to talk to her mother and father - 05/11/2010 02:04:47 PM 1055 Views
she's the youngest child - 07/11/2010 07:51:20 PM 978 Views
why? - 05/11/2010 03:10:39 PM 1197 Views
Re: why? - 05/11/2010 04:23:16 PM 1154 Views
That didn't sound like madman's ramblings at all.... - 05/11/2010 05:00:59 PM 1253 Views
Re: That didn't sound like madman's ramblings at all.... - 05/11/2010 11:10:46 PM 1099 Views
Hail Amrlyin Palpategwene - 06/11/2010 02:05:09 AM 1175 Views
They're the ones who raised her this way! That's the last thing she needs. - 06/11/2010 03:38:17 PM 1196 Views
Um, can we assume her parents raised her that way? - 08/11/2010 04:57:05 AM 1016 Views
She's a short, female, youngest child of influential parents. Arrogance would come naturally to her. - 09/11/2010 02:08:29 AM 1142 Views
Huh - 09/11/2010 07:56:15 AM 1140 Views
Wow. What the fuck did your parents do to you? *NM* - 09/11/2010 03:35:07 PM 554 Views
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I try to avoid projecting myself onto fictional characters. Or real people. - 09/11/2010 06:45:14 PM 1021 Views
too bad - 09/11/2010 08:20:04 PM 979 Views
Why don't you compare her to a summer's day while you're at it? *NM* - 09/11/2010 07:45:20 PM 481 Views
well... - 09/11/2010 08:18:08 PM 918 Views
I'm teasing you because you lay it on a little thick sometimes *NM* - 10/11/2010 01:10:39 AM 606 Views
You are seriously mis-perceiving a number of things. - 10/11/2010 01:30:47 AM 1184 Views
So? - 05/11/2010 09:53:22 AM 1046 Views
i agree. and this is part of the reason why i don't understand why people have a hard time w/ egwene - 05/11/2010 03:56:48 PM 1092 Views
Re: So? - 05/11/2010 07:59:12 PM 1078 Views
Re: So? - 06/11/2010 09:06:49 AM 964 Views
She didn't say that. You changed the wording and read it without context. - 05/11/2010 03:29:27 PM 1201 Views
So? - 05/11/2010 04:04:54 PM 1035 Views
The engima that is Egwene - 06/11/2010 01:41:43 AM 1206 Views
I wonder if... - 06/11/2010 05:17:45 AM 1035 Views
You might have paid more attention than me when reading - 06/11/2010 06:50:46 AM 1029 Views
The reason rand didn't tell Egwene about why he needs to break the seals is simple - 22/06/2011 10:49:25 PM 1103 Views
That's the problem with Elayne that has emerged. - 06/11/2010 03:31:41 PM 1248 Views
Or, you know, she's being cleverer than you give her credit for... - 06/11/2010 04:45:10 PM 1108 Views
This is the problem with rulers - what is smart for them equals increasing their power. Which is bad - 06/11/2010 08:40:19 PM 1038 Views
So fragmentation is the reply? - 06/11/2010 09:59:47 PM 1023 Views
Checks and balances IS diluting power. - 09/11/2010 02:16:18 AM 1056 Views
The Andoran houses should ask one question of Elayne - and remove her if she answers wrongly - 08/11/2010 02:03:08 AM 1111 Views
Hear, hear. - 09/11/2010 02:18:49 AM 1081 Views
Maybe it's typo - 08/11/2010 06:38:26 PM 1273 Views
Yes, I'm pretty certain it is. - 09/11/2010 09:00:32 AM 988 Views
Agreed - 09/11/2010 07:05:09 PM 936 Views
i thought it was a typo too *NM* - 10/11/2010 09:11:10 AM 672 Views

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