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What was the purpose of Graendal?! malekithe Send a noteboard - 25/11/2010 03:54:29 PM
Why 'save' her deus ex machina style, just so she could...do nothing in the next book?

Her role was utterly pointless in ToM. Basically instead of Moridin telling Slayer what to do, he gave Slayer to Graendal so she could tell him that to do. Seems like she wasn't really needed at all. At least we should have seen her in some confrontation against Rand, Perrin etc.

So what, she's saved for the last book to be mindtrapped by Moridin? How pathetic. She'd be better off dead then since her own unique character traits that make her so interesting to us are worthless as a mindless slave to Moridin.

Yes, maybe some people wanted to see more of Graendal, but if she was going to survive the unsurvivable (balefire) at least she should have reallY RIPPED Rand and Co a new asshole in ToM.

She herself was USELESS. She never got herself personally involved AND it wasnt even her own involvement which got Slayer involved. At least we could have seen her having to have to hunt down Slayer to make him do the deed, but she was just handed Slayer, she did NOTHING. She confronted NOONE and I'm sorry, but I think we'd ALL like to see a Chosen tear that shit up for once!

I dont think we've seen any Chosen really fight hard for a VERY long time, decades. Wouldn't it have been A LOT more fun to watch Graendal's back against the wall and going ballistic against Rand, maybe compelling every channeler around him to attack him at once!

Anything EXCITING would be something fresh to watch from one of the 'terrible' Chosen.
This message last edited by malekithe on 27/11/2010 at 06:50:44 AM
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What was the purpose of Graendal?! - 25/11/2010 03:54:29 PM 1782 Views
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read DomA's review. BullShit ruined the series. *NM* - 25/11/2010 04:31:56 PM 466 Views
Links or it didn't happen. - 25/11/2010 04:53:24 PM 965 Views
oh but, bookwyrm, now they have such a nice easy scapegoat!! *NM* - 26/11/2010 01:35:53 AM 433 Views
And DomA is such infallible authority on the all things WoT why? *NM* - 25/11/2010 06:00:42 PM 464 Views
I'd say that DomA is one of the most thoughtful posters here. He researches his comments and gives - 25/11/2010 06:47:58 PM 981 Views
You got me wrong - 25/11/2010 07:11:43 PM 1111 Views
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Okay, what would you have had him do? - 27/11/2010 01:54:19 AM 820 Views
Interesting question. - 27/11/2010 02:58:55 AM 988 Views
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Re: Interesting question. - 27/11/2010 11:52:53 PM 769 Views
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Re: Okay, what would you have had him do? - 27/11/2010 06:02:22 PM 788 Views
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A minor aside - 26/11/2010 02:49:03 PM 809 Views
oops minor omission, i meant the last 3 books were meant to be one big tome *NM* - 26/11/2010 04:40:53 PM 399 Views
Meh, even that is pretty ridiculous - 26/11/2010 06:32:20 PM 756 Views
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I don't agree with "deus ex machina style" - 25/11/2010 05:58:19 PM 1015 Views
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No, it wasn't obvious. - 26/11/2010 03:25:09 AM 835 Views
Well, it was after I read it. - 26/11/2010 02:03:20 PM 852 Views
Yes, she was useless to this storyline. - 25/11/2010 11:40:57 PM 940 Views
If it hadn't been Graendal, it WOULD have been rather contrived... - 26/11/2010 01:35:12 AM 802 Views
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I was under the impression other Forsaken had access as well, something pointed out by their POVs .. - 27/11/2010 09:09:17 AM 795 Views
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NM *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:29:40 AM 458 Views

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