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True, at that point she was essentially a feral animal. Joel Send a noteboard - 02/12/2010 01:18:14 AM
So, yeah: it's not some Shadow-only thing - as such. It could have to do with being "steeped in evil" so that the person's culture could be suppressed (which we know is what the 13x13 trick does, to an extent).

It's been a while, but IIRC she veils after Rand calls out to her and recognizing him restores her awareness of her self. Unless they're all channelers (or Sheriam lied, which is certainly possible) it can't be a 13X13 thing. I'm at a bit of a loss to explain what they are unless the DO has been seizing and turning every male Aiel who runs north to "slay Sightblinder" when he learns he can channel. I don't really think they'd kill unveiled even then, but: Aiel Dreadlords; what a lovely thought....
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The Turned Ashaman and Aiel - not 13x13 guttering flame - 30/11/2010 10:20:07 PM 1552 Views
I didn't see it, but I think this could be a good catch RugbyPlayingAshaman - 30/11/2010 10:38:56 PM 809 Views
Tarna's the only one we have a handle on moratcorlm - 01/12/2010 01:39:28 AM 900 Views
The Aiel at the end are Aiel because they have veils (which they didn't replace before killing). Joel - 01/12/2010 02:01:17 PM 677 Views
Liah didn't veil in Aridhol when she killed some Trollocs. Macharius - 01/12/2010 03:41:56 PM 911 Views
True, at that point she was essentially a feral animal. Joel - 02/12/2010 01:18:14 AM 696 Views
Re: True, at that point she was essentially a feral animal. Lord Haart - 02/12/2010 11:08:16 AM 579 Views
There's actually a pretty good chance they aren't channelers, I think. Joel - 02/12/2010 02:45:41 PM 574 Views
Whoever she had been, she was surely no Aiel, not with that pale skin and /those dark eyes./ moratcorlm - 02/12/2010 12:34:46 AM 622 Views
"An Aes Sedai, perhaps. " Joel - 02/12/2010 01:59:32 AM 539 Views
The point is it doesn't look like an Aiel moratcorlm - 02/12/2010 04:22:14 AM 585 Views
Perhaps the black eyes are due to something akin to the saa? *NM* Lord Haart - 02/12/2010 11:12:03 AM 258 Views
Makes sense if they're Dreadlords, though, in a way, that would be disappointing. Joel - 06/12/2010 02:39:54 AM 696 Views
FIFTY quatloos on the oldcomers! Joel - 02/12/2010 02:37:19 PM 745 Views
They did "ethnically cleanse" moratcorlm - 03/12/2010 07:50:24 AM 612 Views
There's no evidence to that effect; on what do you base that statement? Joel - 06/12/2010 02:14:09 AM 732 Views
No, I was being facetious about "cleansing" moratcorlm - 07/12/2010 02:55:30 PM 663 Views
I suppose that means the guys who stabbed Demira in Caemlyn were Aiel too darius_sedai - 05/12/2010 04:56:59 PM 638 Views
If these guys were trying to make it look like a failed AIel killing, they suck at it. Joel - 05/12/2010 06:10:32 PM 543 Views
Re: If these guys were trying to make it look like a failed AIel killing, they suck at it. Lo'oris - 05/12/2010 11:26:52 PM 519 Views
Glad we're on the same page now. Joel - 06/12/2010 02:24:38 AM 708 Views
I'm not holding my breath that they are Aiel darius_sedai - 06/12/2010 08:42:11 PM 759 Views
Seriously framed comments usually prompt responses in kind. Joel - 06/12/2010 10:12:08 PM 559 Views
Just pointing out that it's been a sure sign of shenanigans when RJ pointed to something as obvious darius_sedai - 07/12/2010 03:52:46 AM 598 Views
Fair enough, but he usually made things obviously obvious. Joel - 07/12/2010 02:12:29 PM 570 Views
I thought this was what it meant. Posted about it in another thread somewhere. Bryce - 01/12/2010 03:12:19 PM 644 Views
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