Brigitte, when she noted he was gone, said that he had already been spun out by the pattern and was "a baby or a young boy".
I'm not sure what the implications are for spirituality in Jordan's world (whether the soul is joined to the body following birth at some indeterminate point), but she wouldn't have qualified the statement "a baby" if there weren't some way he ended up being older.
Up until his stupid maudlin backstory in this book, we had every reason to believe that Olver could be Gaidal Cain. Jordan made up enough other weird rules for his world that it was absolutely possible, especially given all the false hints made in that direction.
I'm not sure what the implications are for spirituality in Jordan's world (whether the soul is joined to the body following birth at some indeterminate point), but she wouldn't have qualified the statement "a baby" if there weren't some way he ended up being older.
Up until his stupid maudlin backstory in this book, we had every reason to believe that Olver could be Gaidal Cain. Jordan made up enough other weird rules for his world that it was absolutely possible, especially given all the false hints made in that direction.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
So...what was this "heartbreaking scene" with Olver in ToM?
- 01/12/2010 04:12:34 AM
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His POV almost angered me
- 01/12/2010 04:48:14 AM
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olver is upset you feel that way. olver just wants to be able to kill the shaido that took his dad
- 01/12/2010 07:33:43 AM
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Just then Shaidar Haran came and cut off Olvers head. 
- 01/12/2010 11:53:59 AM
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- 01/12/2010 11:53:59 AM
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There's really absolutely no point to his character if he isn't Gaidal Cain.
- 01/12/2010 02:16:26 PM
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He's EveryCairhienin; prob'ly RJ didn't call him that 'cos it hurts the eye and mouth too much. 
- 01/12/2010 02:50:30 PM
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- 01/12/2010 02:50:30 PM
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That reply made me wish we had a vomiting smiley. Melodramatic much? *NM*
- 02/12/2010 12:49:03 AM
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can do double duty, but they call it "Epic Fantasy" for a reason. 
- 02/12/2010 01:04:42 AM
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can do double duty, but they call it "Epic Fantasy" for a reason.
- 02/12/2010 01:04:42 AM
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That theory never even made sense.
- 01/12/2010 07:45:49 PM
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What are you talking about?
- 02/12/2010 12:50:00 AM
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He's too old
- 02/12/2010 01:47:03 AM
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No he isn't.
- 02/12/2010 04:57:46 AM
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Yes, yes he is.
- 02/12/2010 06:27:25 AM
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I can deal with the "spoiled" part (more or less) but it sure doesn't make him sympathetic. *NM*
- 01/12/2010 02:15:04 PM
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I believe someone posted before, and I do forget who, but I shall paraphrase.
- 01/12/2010 05:44:58 AM
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Hehe
- 01/12/2010 01:57:16 PM
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I really don't remember that
- 01/12/2010 02:17:52 PM
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Re: I really don't remember that
- 01/12/2010 02:19:58 PM
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Hah, I remember that. He was all "Everyone killed themselves! It's SAD!"
- 01/12/2010 03:08:24 PM
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And here it registered so little with me I don't even remember it happening.
- 02/12/2010 12:54:40 AM
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The "GASP Moment" that produced so much speculation leading up to KoD
- 01/12/2010 03:13:56 PM
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I think it was supposed to be heartbreaking that a child was spending his days
- 01/12/2010 05:42:40 PM
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no...no I don't forget. I have a good emotional memory and it wasn't THAT long ago...
- 01/12/2010 08:16:17 PM
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I generally liked ToM, but the Olver PoV did make me cringe a bit. *NM*
- 02/12/2010 02:12:54 PM
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