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Re: Nynaeve should not have been made to swear the Oaths Cannoli Send a noteboard - 07/12/2010 10:44:01 PM
I hate to disagree but going by your reasoning Cannoli its the test not the oaths that Nynaeve should not have had to take. The test was the usual way that an Accepted proved that she ws ready to step up to the plate and become an Aes Sedai with all that entailed.
It's either one. Nynaeve wanted to prove herself with the test, but the emphasis was always on the Oaths. She should not have been required to take either.

Egwene changed the rules on that and there was not too much dispute over it as the Accepted she elevated were certainly worthy of the title of Aes Sedia. Once she was given the title of Aes Sedia it was wrong to make her make her take the test again. That is a bit like telling an employee that they have to do an interview to be rehired for their old job. Nynaeve could well have told Egwene that she was Aes Sedai by Egwene's very own decree and if that decree did not have legal effect were any of her decrees any better.
Exactly.

I don't think Egwene ever said that she was changing the rules so that an Aes Sedai did not have to be bound by the oaths.
Well she knows about the Law of Unintended Consequences, and there is the concept of precedent. Given the kind of foolish things she did on her first day in office, and the possible ripples, it is probably for the best that the Hall tried to run things.

She toyed with the idea and then changed her mind for what ever reason. Maybe it was Siuan, many be it was Moggy it does not really matter why she did not alter the law.

It was undestood by everyone that the newly raised sisters would have to take the oaths once they regained the oath rod. I believe that there was even a proposal in the rebel hall to try to Travel to the Tower and get the oath rod so that they could complete the proper raising of sisters. This suggests to me that at no stage among the Rebel AS was it ever imagined that any sisters raised by decree would be exempt from the requirements of taking the oaths.
What you assume is irrelevant. A fact Aes Sedai take advantage of to a high degree with their oath against speaking untruth.
Cannoli
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Nynaeve should not have been made to swear the Oaths - 07/12/2010 03:12:00 PM 2030 Views
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Re: Nynaeve should not have been made to swear the Oaths - 07/12/2010 10:44:01 PM 992 Views
*shrugs* ... the oaths are lame and so full of holes the only value they bring is - 07/12/2010 03:26:21 PM 987 Views
I wonder what would have happened if she refused and left the tower entirely. - 07/12/2010 03:30:58 PM 981 Views
I doubt they would have stopped her ... but there was no real reason for her to refuse the - 07/12/2010 03:34:20 PM 971 Views
no there wasn't a real reason for her to refuse. It'd still be interesting if she did *NM* - 07/12/2010 03:37:45 PM 462 Views
would have made for an interesting spin on the plot - 07/12/2010 05:37:31 PM 968 Views
How is she not a lead? - 07/12/2010 06:25:45 PM 910 Views
She has never really had her own unique plot line - 07/12/2010 06:34:40 PM 934 Views
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that - 07/12/2010 07:46:08 PM 930 Views
Nothing to really argue here except perspective ... to each their own *NM* - 07/12/2010 10:26:04 PM 455 Views
Re: *shrugs* ... the oaths are lame and so full of holes the only value they bring is - 07/12/2010 10:49:12 PM 980 Views
I think that is true of the testing not the Oaths - 08/12/2010 05:08:22 PM 914 Views
she shouldn't have, although I think they should trash the oaths in general - 07/12/2010 03:29:21 PM 911 Views
agreed! and I think Nynaeve's testing rather proved that point - 07/12/2010 03:35:38 PM 973 Views
Especially since Egwene herself didn't really think it necessary for herself to take the tests - 07/12/2010 03:43:18 PM 958 Views
well it looks like such a coalition is part of the plan - 07/12/2010 03:47:03 PM 926 Views
I meant one that would destroy the White Tower - 07/12/2010 03:53:35 PM 1014 Views
ahh I see. well maybe they shall - 07/12/2010 04:00:52 PM 901 Views
She was always going to have to swear the Oaths - 07/12/2010 04:42:59 PM 932 Views
Good old political necessity - 07/12/2010 06:29:26 PM 833 Views
Amyrlin's decree - 07/12/2010 09:56:51 PM 896 Views
Brace yourselves, everybody... - 08/12/2010 02:56:43 PM 872 Views
Ooops, double post! *NM* - 08/12/2010 02:58:01 PM 457 Views
And what? To miss all the awesomeness she had before/during/after the test? - 07/12/2010 06:27:23 PM 882 Views
I agree about the test, kind of. The Oaths was going too far. - 07/12/2010 07:02:43 PM 1055 Views
Re: I agree about the test, kind of. The Oaths was going too far. - 16/12/2010 10:40:39 AM 813 Views
And yet people keep choosing donuts over lettuce *NM* - 16/12/2010 10:47:04 AM 476 Views
It's supposed to be a required part of being Aes Sedai. - 08/12/2010 08:52:34 AM 924 Views
Has Egwene swore the Oaths? - 08/12/2010 03:11:37 PM 972 Views
Yes - she swore on the Oath Rod in TGS. *NM* - 08/12/2010 03:22:31 PM 496 Views
Love Nynaeve... - 10/12/2010 09:49:13 AM 870 Views
On the contrary, being Aes Sedai means she had to swear the Oaths. - 14/12/2010 04:53:28 AM 840 Views
Re: On the contrary, being Aes Sedai means she had to swear the Oaths. - 14/12/2010 11:53:43 AM 927 Views
Passing your scars on - 14/12/2010 07:07:43 PM 777 Views
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Actually I'm not being flippant - 15/12/2010 05:58:22 AM 872 Views
So? - 15/12/2010 11:40:32 AM 932 Views

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