The only problem with that scenario was that Nynaeve had stuff to do, and could not as Accepted
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 09/12/2010 01:09:45 AM
I am about to say something negative about my wondergirls:
Egwene never should have raised the girls the way she did. My reasons are similar to those expressed by moratcorlm. Had I been Nynaeve I would have said, "No thank you, Mother, I'll wait until I am in the tower and can be raised properly, please." I wouldn't want to be looked at as some Half-assed A.S. and have that hanging over my head for the next 300 years, because you know how those old biddies are, they'll never let that die. Furthermore, I would have done the same thing Mat did, I would have bowed and scraped and called her Mother all over the place to try to support her to the fullest.
Egwene never should have raised the girls the way she did. My reasons are similar to those expressed by moratcorlm. Had I been Nynaeve I would have said, "No thank you, Mother, I'll wait until I am in the tower and can be raised properly, please." I wouldn't want to be looked at as some Half-assed A.S. and have that hanging over my head for the next 300 years, because you know how those old biddies are, they'll never let that die. Furthermore, I would have done the same thing Mat did, I would have bowed and scraped and called her Mother all over the place to try to support her to the fullest.
At the time she was raised, the world was going to the Blight in a bucket. Nynaeve & Elayne knew about the Bowl of the Winds and did not believe (with justification) that the Aes Sedai were taking it seriously. The world was in massive danger and they were the only ones interested or able to solve the drought problem. Fussing over White Tower technicalities and Aes Sedai BovFec is the kind of stuff Egwene does. Nynaeve and Elayne simply seized on the first opportunity to get away from the huge waste of their time Salidar had become, and went off to save the world.
If it made political problems for Egwene, that is simply tough noogies. The Amyrlin Seat and the Hall and the White Tower organization all exist to enable channelers to do their thing and provide solutions to supernatural problems. Yet Amyrlins and Sitters and all too many sisters seem to believe in the inverse: that channelers exist to reinforce the White Tower and bring it glory and power. That is probably related to why Nynaeve and Elayne were allowed to head off to Ebou Dar with so little protest - they were wild cards and too accomplished, powerful and new to the Tower (and thus not as thoroughly indoctrinated as longer-service initiates) to be quelled into being lackies like Theodrin and Faolain were. The powers that be in Salidar were happy to see them gone so they did not have to wrap their minds around the implications of these unorthodox "sisters." The idea that they might actually take action on their own seems to be beyond the grasp of Romanda et al. From their point of view, only "real" sisters have the capability to get things done, and the Tower and Hall are the axis of the world. The idea that a couple of girls with no real authority in the Tower could...matter...was beyond them.
From my point of view, the damage Egwene did to the Tower and its traditions and rules was a wonderful thing and needed to be exacerbated, not repaired. But even if it was not a good thing, and its repair was for the greater good, it still does not change the fact that the Tower had no right to take that axe to the status and rights of a sister just to recover the Amyrlin & Tower's fumbled authority.
Cannoli
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
"Sometimes unhinged, sometimes unfair, always entertaining"
- The Crownless
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Deus Vult!
Nynaeve should not have been made to swear the Oaths
- 07/12/2010 03:12:00 PM
1877 Views
*shrugs* ... the oaths are lame and so full of holes the only value they bring is
- 07/12/2010 03:26:21 PM
872 Views
I wonder what would have happened if she refused and left the tower entirely.
- 07/12/2010 03:30:58 PM
871 Views
I doubt they would have stopped her ... but there was no real reason for her to refuse the
- 07/12/2010 03:34:20 PM
826 Views
no there wasn't a real reason for her to refuse. It'd still be interesting if she did *NM*
- 07/12/2010 03:37:45 PM
404 Views
would have made for an interesting spin on the plot
- 07/12/2010 05:37:31 PM
837 Views
How is she not a lead?
- 07/12/2010 06:25:45 PM
792 Views
She has never really had her own unique plot line
- 07/12/2010 06:34:40 PM
765 Views
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that
- 07/12/2010 07:46:08 PM
810 Views
Nothing to really argue here except perspective ... to each their own 
*NM*
- 07/12/2010 10:26:04 PM
397 Views
*NM*
- 07/12/2010 10:26:04 PM
397 Views
That would have been good - I think she was probably the only woman with such an opportunity
- 07/12/2010 10:59:50 PM
856 Views
Personally, I think it would have been a brillaint twist if Nyneave didn't become Aes Sedai *NM*
- 08/12/2010 12:02:05 AM
440 Views
Re: *shrugs* ... the oaths are lame and so full of holes the only value they bring is
- 07/12/2010 10:49:12 PM
850 Views
she shouldn't have, although I think they should trash the oaths in general
- 07/12/2010 03:29:21 PM
786 Views
Especially since Egwene herself didn't really think it necessary for herself to take the tests
- 07/12/2010 03:43:18 PM
825 Views
well it looks like such a coalition is part of the plan
- 07/12/2010 03:47:03 PM
812 Views
I meant one that would destroy the White Tower 
- 07/12/2010 03:53:35 PM
877 Views
- 07/12/2010 03:53:35 PM
877 Views
I agree with you. Hopefully Post LB there will be a new structure to the AS organization
- 07/12/2010 05:34:01 PM
745 Views
She was always going to have to swear the Oaths
- 07/12/2010 04:42:59 PM
806 Views
Brace yourselves, everybody...
- 08/12/2010 02:56:43 PM
736 Views
The only problem with that scenario was that Nynaeve had stuff to do, and could not as Accepted
- 09/12/2010 01:09:45 AM
866 Views
And what? To miss all the awesomeness she had before/during/after the test?
- 07/12/2010 06:27:23 PM
757 Views
- 07/12/2010 06:27:23 PM
757 Views
I agree about the test, kind of. The Oaths was going too far.
- 07/12/2010 07:02:43 PM
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Re: I agree about the test, kind of. The Oaths was going too far.
- 16/12/2010 10:40:39 AM
656 Views
It's supposed to be a required part of being Aes Sedai.
- 08/12/2010 08:52:34 AM
744 Views
On the contrary, being Aes Sedai means she had to swear the Oaths.
- 14/12/2010 04:53:28 AM
720 Views
Re: On the contrary, being Aes Sedai means she had to swear the Oaths.
- 14/12/2010 11:53:43 AM
803 Views
Passing your scars on
- 14/12/2010 07:07:43 PM
650 Views
They believe Oaths necessary, thus an Aes Sedai refusing sets herself apart from and above the rest.
- 16/12/2010 02:26:45 PM
1202 Views
So?
- 15/12/2010 11:40:32 AM
803 Views
From the standpoint of actually changing Tower rules and traditions I agree with you.
- 16/12/2010 02:13:44 PM
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