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Re: Reply to both moratcorlm Send a noteboard - 09/12/2010 10:03:26 AM
the leadership of the Shaido are corrupt and so they have corrupted the ordinary people as well. This can happen to any nation, not just Aiel.
In seven months, from the time Couladin died to the Battle of Malden, the Shaido Aiel transformed from essentially just like the rest of the clans to a lazy, drunken gang of bandits, sitting on their asses, raping their prisoners, and enjoying the good life. This happened despite there being no great upheaval in the leadership ranks (sept chiefs, Wise Ones, societies still perfectly extant) other than Sevanna prolonging her perfectly legitimate rights indefinitely.

I don't buy it. This is not Heart of Darkness. Either the Aiel actually had this kind of behavior going on commonly, outside of Rand and Egwene's view, or their culture really is highly inflexible and breaks in all kind of interesting ways when tested.
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my feelings exactly - 08/12/2010 01:21:20 AM 1252 Views
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The prophesies... - 08/12/2010 01:43:32 AM 1257 Views
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Aviendha's vision is utterly impossible. - 08/12/2010 03:34:05 AM 1657 Views
Hm. Well, what constitutes "saving?" - 09/12/2010 03:39:12 PM 1028 Views
No. - 09/12/2010 06:32:59 PM 1069 Views
It's just a story. - 08/12/2010 05:34:17 AM 1070 Views
* *NM* - 08/12/2010 06:03:39 AM 556 Views
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Fuck the Aiel and the White Tower. Go Team Seanchan! - 08/12/2010 09:20:44 AM 1394 Views
Eh? - 08/12/2010 09:11:17 PM 1135 Views
Peasants aren't slaves? Are you fucking kidding me? - 08/12/2010 11:32:18 PM 1074 Views
yes, but the Seanchan aren't keeping their culture to themselves - 09/12/2010 12:17:36 AM 1060 Views
And Randlanders aren't forcing their beliefs on others? - 09/12/2010 02:22:11 AM 1026 Views
That's plain stupid... - 09/12/2010 06:41:49 AM 1051 Views
Re: That's plain stupid... - 09/12/2010 07:45:34 AM 1024 Views
You call it "Invasion." They call it "The Return" - 09/12/2010 08:21:00 AM 1082 Views
I do. *NM* - 09/12/2010 08:24:00 AM 562 Views
Well, I don't *NM* - 09/12/2010 08:41:32 AM 525 Views
Crap alert! - 09/12/2010 01:26:37 PM 1006 Views
Re: Crap alert! - 10/12/2010 01:51:42 AM 1146 Views
Re: Crap alert! - 10/12/2010 02:25:25 AM 1148 Views
If Britian has the resources or the desire to do so, then of course. - 10/12/2010 07:10:15 AM 1013 Views
Re: You call it "Invasion." They call it "The Return" - 09/12/2010 03:49:10 PM 943 Views
Yes, this. - 09/12/2010 07:17:52 PM 1144 Views
I'd wish it on myself - 09/12/2010 07:40:34 PM 1010 Views
I wouldn't necessarily object to wearing a Domination band... - 10/12/2010 08:37:48 AM 1331 Views
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Personally, I like Suffa better. *NM* - 10/12/2010 01:52:28 AM 548 Views
Peasants aren't slaves. - 09/12/2010 12:19:11 AM 1042 Views
"But they were free men." - 09/12/2010 06:20:10 AM 904 Views
By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom? - 09/12/2010 07:32:42 AM 1110 Views
Re: By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom? - 09/12/2010 07:41:23 AM 1057 Views
Re: By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom? - 09/12/2010 08:23:03 AM 1060 Views
Re: By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom? - 09/12/2010 09:45:14 AM 1044 Views
Re: By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom? - 09/12/2010 06:39:16 PM 1044 Views
Is there anything you'd like to correct about what you just said? - 09/12/2010 07:43:56 PM 1081 Views
Ok. - 10/12/2010 04:57:12 AM 1194 Views
~shrugs~ I prefer using "Peasant" rather than "Serf" - 09/12/2010 08:06:19 AM 1009 Views
They're really different things. - 09/12/2010 08:26:26 AM 1005 Views
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Sure, if you insist on being wrong, it's not like I can stop you. *NM* - 09/12/2010 06:41:18 PM 513 Views
They're the same thing, you're just being anal about it. *NM* - 10/12/2010 01:42:28 AM 527 Views
If that is what you wish to believe. - 10/12/2010 05:00:46 AM 978 Views
gai'shain aren't really comparable to damane - 08/12/2010 10:02:54 PM 1181 Views
The Shaido made precedent, it's done. *NM* - 08/12/2010 11:39:09 PM 490 Views
I disagree. - 09/12/2010 07:22:36 AM 1031 Views
Re: I disagree. - 09/12/2010 07:53:26 AM 914 Views
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I apologize for the "bullshit" comment. - 10/12/2010 08:16:38 AM 1684 Views
Re: Reply to both - 09/12/2010 10:03:26 AM 901 Views
Their culture was raped in the face, hard. - 10/12/2010 02:10:46 AM 1194 Views
Re: Their culture was raped in the face, hard. - 10/12/2010 08:44:27 AM 1047 Views
What kind of reasoning is this? - 09/12/2010 08:29:15 AM 858 Views
Eh? *NM* - 09/12/2010 08:43:01 AM 435 Views
At least the Aiel v. Seanchan question is answered. - 09/12/2010 02:46:02 AM 1683 Views
I actually think her vision will prevent Rand from Bowing to Tuon - 09/12/2010 04:53:25 PM 1009 Views
I hope that this is what happens. - 09/12/2010 07:22:59 PM 1136 Views
I think it's a case of what might, not must, be. - 11/12/2010 03:41:36 AM 1014 Views

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