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Re: Reply to both moratcorlm Send a noteboard - 09/12/2010 10:03:26 AM
the leadership of the Shaido are corrupt and so they have corrupted the ordinary people as well. This can happen to any nation, not just Aiel.
In seven months, from the time Couladin died to the Battle of Malden, the Shaido Aiel transformed from essentially just like the rest of the clans to a lazy, drunken gang of bandits, sitting on their asses, raping their prisoners, and enjoying the good life. This happened despite there being no great upheaval in the leadership ranks (sept chiefs, Wise Ones, societies still perfectly extant) other than Sevanna prolonging her perfectly legitimate rights indefinitely.

I don't buy it. This is not Heart of Darkness. Either the Aiel actually had this kind of behavior going on commonly, outside of Rand and Egwene's view, or their culture really is highly inflexible and breaks in all kind of interesting ways when tested.
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And Randlanders aren't forcing their beliefs on others? - 09/12/2010 02:22:11 AM 1137 Views
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You call it "Invasion." They call it "The Return" - 09/12/2010 08:21:00 AM 1213 Views
I do. *NM* - 09/12/2010 08:24:00 AM 616 Views
Well, I don't *NM* - 09/12/2010 08:41:32 AM 577 Views
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Peasants aren't slaves. - 09/12/2010 12:19:11 AM 1151 Views
"But they were free men." - 09/12/2010 06:20:10 AM 1014 Views
By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom? - 09/12/2010 07:32:42 AM 1216 Views
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Re: By that definition, is there any such thing as freedom? - 09/12/2010 06:39:16 PM 1163 Views
Is there anything you'd like to correct about what you just said? - 09/12/2010 07:43:56 PM 1197 Views
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Re: Reply to both - 09/12/2010 10:03:26 AM 1021 Views
Their culture was raped in the face, hard. - 10/12/2010 02:10:46 AM 1293 Views
Re: Their culture was raped in the face, hard. - 10/12/2010 08:44:27 AM 1191 Views
What kind of reasoning is this? - 09/12/2010 08:29:15 AM 978 Views
Eh? *NM* - 09/12/2010 08:43:01 AM 485 Views
At least the Aiel v. Seanchan question is answered. - 09/12/2010 02:46:02 AM 1807 Views
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