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Actually I'm not being flippant guttering flame Send a noteboard - 15/12/2010 05:58:22 AM
Replicating your scars on the next generation is actually a lot more common than you might think. Why should those new young uppity Aes Sedai get to live twice as long as you and not suffer from a painful facelift when you do? They should suffer as much as you if they want to be like you. Examples from RL abound.


Are you being serious or is this just a flippant post? I'm sorry I can't tell just by reading text on a screen in this case. I really lean towards flippant...


Practically every questionable tradition works in this manner. They're often justified in some manner but those justifications tend to ring hollow.

To take just one example, look at humiliating and often illegal initiating ceremonies in military units where beatings, scarring and/or semi-rapish scenarios are enacted on the initiates by the senior members. These stories crop up again and again. They're not isolated incidents. Would you be shocked how often these things have to be broken from the outside with only one or two members of the hundreds that experienced it willing to complain and break the silence at first? or condemn it when it's revealed?

This story is as old as dirt.
This message last edited by guttering flame on 15/12/2010 at 06:02:25 AM
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Nynaeve should not have been made to swear the Oaths - 07/12/2010 03:12:00 PM 2030 Views
Re: Nynaeve should not have been made to swear the Oaths - 07/12/2010 03:22:49 PM 1239 Views
Re: Nynaeve should not have been made to swear the Oaths - 07/12/2010 10:44:01 PM 992 Views
*shrugs* ... the oaths are lame and so full of holes the only value they bring is - 07/12/2010 03:26:21 PM 987 Views
I wonder what would have happened if she refused and left the tower entirely. - 07/12/2010 03:30:58 PM 982 Views
I doubt they would have stopped her ... but there was no real reason for her to refuse the - 07/12/2010 03:34:20 PM 971 Views
no there wasn't a real reason for her to refuse. It'd still be interesting if she did *NM* - 07/12/2010 03:37:45 PM 462 Views
would have made for an interesting spin on the plot - 07/12/2010 05:37:31 PM 968 Views
How is she not a lead? - 07/12/2010 06:25:45 PM 910 Views
She has never really had her own unique plot line - 07/12/2010 06:34:40 PM 934 Views
I'm going to have to disagree with you on that - 07/12/2010 07:46:08 PM 930 Views
Nothing to really argue here except perspective ... to each their own *NM* - 07/12/2010 10:26:04 PM 455 Views
Re: *shrugs* ... the oaths are lame and so full of holes the only value they bring is - 07/12/2010 10:49:12 PM 980 Views
I think that is true of the testing not the Oaths - 08/12/2010 05:08:22 PM 914 Views
she shouldn't have, although I think they should trash the oaths in general - 07/12/2010 03:29:21 PM 911 Views
agreed! and I think Nynaeve's testing rather proved that point - 07/12/2010 03:35:38 PM 973 Views
Especially since Egwene herself didn't really think it necessary for herself to take the tests - 07/12/2010 03:43:18 PM 958 Views
well it looks like such a coalition is part of the plan - 07/12/2010 03:47:03 PM 926 Views
I meant one that would destroy the White Tower - 07/12/2010 03:53:35 PM 1014 Views
ahh I see. well maybe they shall - 07/12/2010 04:00:52 PM 901 Views
She was always going to have to swear the Oaths - 07/12/2010 04:42:59 PM 932 Views
Good old political necessity - 07/12/2010 06:29:26 PM 833 Views
Amyrlin's decree - 07/12/2010 09:56:51 PM 896 Views
Brace yourselves, everybody... - 08/12/2010 02:56:43 PM 873 Views
Ooops, double post! *NM* - 08/12/2010 02:58:01 PM 457 Views
And what? To miss all the awesomeness she had before/during/after the test? - 07/12/2010 06:27:23 PM 882 Views
I agree about the test, kind of. The Oaths was going too far. - 07/12/2010 07:02:43 PM 1056 Views
Re: I agree about the test, kind of. The Oaths was going too far. - 16/12/2010 10:40:39 AM 813 Views
And yet people keep choosing donuts over lettuce *NM* - 16/12/2010 10:47:04 AM 476 Views
It's supposed to be a required part of being Aes Sedai. - 08/12/2010 08:52:34 AM 924 Views
Has Egwene swore the Oaths? - 08/12/2010 03:11:37 PM 972 Views
Yes - she swore on the Oath Rod in TGS. *NM* - 08/12/2010 03:22:31 PM 496 Views
Love Nynaeve... - 10/12/2010 09:49:13 AM 870 Views
On the contrary, being Aes Sedai means she had to swear the Oaths. - 14/12/2010 04:53:28 AM 840 Views
Re: On the contrary, being Aes Sedai means she had to swear the Oaths. - 14/12/2010 11:53:43 AM 927 Views
Passing your scars on - 14/12/2010 07:07:43 PM 777 Views
Re: Passing your scars on - 14/12/2010 10:45:01 PM 953 Views
Actually I'm not being flippant - 15/12/2010 05:58:22 AM 873 Views
So? - 15/12/2010 11:40:32 AM 932 Views

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